URGENT. Windermere Speed Limit Petition

Chrusty 1 said:
Well not being an editor of Motor Boats Monthly, that is not credentials, it is vested interest.

There are so many other places for high speed motor boats to go and play in without restrictions of any kind that it makes me feel that to demand the use of somewhere like Windermere, that at least is a haven of peace and tranquility, is selfish beyond belief.

Still that's just my opinion, I doubt very much that it will attract much sympathy from most on here.:)
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I didn't say he was the editor of MBM, I said he was the founding editor. Please read more carefully if you are going to quote me. He is not in the employ of MBM or IPC now so no vested interest that I can see.

When the speed restrictions were placed on all the other lakes, Windermere was left as the one lake that could be used at speed. If you want peace and tranquility, you have all the other lakes or meres. Seems more selfish to me to demand all of something for your own agenda rather than be prepared to share what is there.
 
Chrusty 1 said:
Well not being an editor of Motor Boats Monthly, that is not credentials, it is vested interest.

There are so many other places for high speed motor boats to go and play in without restrictions of any kind that it makes me feel that to demand the use of somewhere like Windermere, that at least is a haven of peace and tranquility, is selfish beyond belief.

Still that's just my opinion, I doubt very much that it will attract much sympathy from most on here.:)
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Did you actually read the survey ?

I filled it in, but i saw nowhere in it any references to "high speed motor boats to go and play in without restrictions of any kind". The changes to the bylaws relating to the speed limit exceptions were largely for things like safety boat training.
 
neale said:
I didn't say he was the editor of MBM, I said he was the founding editor. Please read more carefully if you are going to quote me. He is not in the employ of MBM or IPC now so no vested interest that I can see.

When the speed restrictions were placed on all the other lakes, Windermere was left as the one lake that could be used at speed. If you want peace and tranquility, you have all the other lakes or meres. Seems more selfish to me to demand all of something for your own agenda rather than be prepared to share what is there.
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+1

The original agreement in the 70's was for all other bodies of water to have a speed restiction and Windermere to have 2 areas unrestricted.

Thare are no public inland bodies of water left in England that are unrestricted.
 
landlockedpirate said:
+1

The original agreement in the 70's was for all other bodies of water to have a speed restiction and Windermere to have 2 areas unrestricted.

Thare are no public inland bodies of water left in England that are unrestricted.
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But vast areas of very public outland bodies of water with no horrid speed restrictions just waiting to be explored by all those devil may care adventurous speed boat types unable to resist the thrill of wheeee...bang bang bang ...corse there is the minor matter of wind,waves etc and no comforting shore on both sides of the boat.:)
 
oldgit said:
But vast areas of very public outland bodies of water with no horrid speed restrictions just waiting to be explored by all those devil may care adventurous speed boat types unable to resist the thrill of wheeee...bang bang bang ...corse there is the minor matter of wind,waves etc and no comforting shore on both sides of the boat.:)
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Unless you're in the Solent :D
 
I'ts could be a class thing

Chrusty 1 said:
Well not being an editor of Motor Boats Monthly, that is not credentials, it is vested interest.

There are so many other places for high speed motor boats to go and play in without restrictions of any kind that it makes me feel that to demand the use of somewhere like Windermere, that at least is a haven of peace and tranquility, is selfish beyond belief.

Still that's just my opinion, I doubt very much that it will attract much sympathy from most on here.:)
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I sail/canoe/motorboat/rib/cycle and walk. I never thought Windermere noisy.

However, after the ban, I was at Ferry Nab one Sunday when we heard a b&**dy motorcycle, must have been by Lakeside at first. It ...screamed...(?) at whatever speed of light up the far side of W'mere, finally fading, after 10/mins plus towards Grasmere.. One person making more noise than hundreds of others. If noise was really the issue, tackle off water noise too?

Nick (Rivendell)
expensive place to visit once too- annual licence Jan/Dec, really useful for a week in August, pricey stickers too..
Rant over
 
carlton said:
I have completed it. I wasn't going to bother but other comments persuaded me to do so.
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Me too. Never been near Windermere with a boat or anything else but Baddox's post has turned me into a supporter
 
Chrusty 1 said:
There are so many other places for high speed motor boats to go and play in without restrictions of any kind that it makes me feel that to demand the use of somewhere like Windermere, that at least is a haven of peace and tranquility, is selfish beyond belief.
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If only there were other (already speed restricted) lakes in the LAKE DISTRICT rather than just that one, eh?
 
oldgit said:
But vast areas of very public outland bodies of water with no horrid speed restrictions just waiting to be explored by all those devil may care adventurous speed boat types unable to resist the thrill of wheeee...bang bang bang ...corse there is the minor matter of wind,waves etc and no comforting shore on both sides of the boat.:)
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Yep, a lot of us use the bumpy bits as well. I miss the lake mainly for sking. It was also a great place for the social aspects of boating.
 
There are so many other places for high speed motor boats to go and play in without restrictions of any kind that it makes me feel that to demand the use of somewhere like Windermere, that at least is a haven of peace and tranquility, is selfish beyond belief.

Still that's just my opinion, I doubt very much that it will attract much sympathy from most on here.:)[/QUOTE]

I think people arent looking at the big picture here to me if the restrictions were eased on windermere the preasure would be eased on the likes of loch lomond(which is next in line for the speed restrictions).
So would it be fair to say everywhere should be managing there speed boats and jet skis instead of leaving others to do all the work,so personaly i think your post was selfish.
 
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Baddox said:
We already have a lot of places and opportunities to open the throttle
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I'm sure there are - where exactly would they be though?

Baddox said:
don’t need the extra noise and environmental pollution doing this in a sensitive are such as Windermere.
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If thats the case where do you stop? We were there this weekend and there were a hell of a number of bikes roaring up and down the lake front at Bowness. Many were far noisier than any boat might be. Shall we ban bikes, sports cars, VW Camper vans (cant be good for environment) and maybe MV Swan and Teal whist at it. The wash that comes from the back of those at 10kts is pretty big and the black smoke bellowing from their 1000hp diesels is pretty impressive too if your into that sort of thing.

If you want to limit pollution then ban the 1000's of cars that jam the place up every sunny weekend, bank holiday and school holiday or limit them to 10mph or tickover on the lake road. This will serve a far bigger contribution to a cleaner environment than a couple of boats at 20kts for 10-15 minutes, which is about the most you can do between the quite right 6mph restriction zones.

There is one thing that annoys me about Windermere and it happens now with or without the limit in force and that's certain Ski-boats.

There is little regard for the current rules, they just trail down on a sunny day, speed around with little regard for boating etiquette and generally cause a nuisance before packing up and sodding off. We've had a TV fall off and break due to them passing at stupid speeds whilst we were anchored up, as well as some substantial abuse from one of the Mr Mastercrafts who came past us at speed and dived straight into the mooring we were lining up to get into. Its easy to tackle the static boat residents though.
 
No I’ve not been hiding under a bridge or spending all my hours on here, I have been enjoying life at work and calm sunny evenings on the boat.
There have been some well-reasoned replies, some I agree with and others that I don’t, thought provoking none the less. Sadly there are also a few who would rather have a dig at the messenger than the message, but oddly don’t seem prepared to proffer a point of view of their own. Ultimately though, posting opinions on here isn’t likely to result in much policy change or maintenance of the status quo, that’s what the survey was for.
 
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