Update on obtuse vendor

[CharlesM]

Hello all

An update on the 'Obtuse Vendor or Pedantic Purchaser' thread.

Seems the month of silence and refusal to provide information on the boat was a delaying tactic. Just heard boat is now sold to someone else!!

Possibly I lost the boat due to my insistence on clearing certain issues. I feel a little sad, but I know that I will not go ahead with any purchase that does not provide me with all the information I need. Particularly there must be solid proof the boat is RCD exempt (which I did not see given this boat was imported from Australia), and I must be able to do a full survey.

Anyway - back to the search.

Charles

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[StephenW]

Take heart Charles. If you had bought a boat without RCD/VAT etc you would be kicking yourself. A boat purchase is second only to a house purchase in terms of cost and one could argue it is more of a commitment - you need to feel satoisfied you have taken prudent precautions to ensure it is genuine in every respect. The other purchaser is probably less cautious and more naive - probably to their detriment when they try to sell.

Looks like you have lived to buy a boat another day - I personally would fight shy of anyone unprepared to provide what most normal people would regard as basic information.

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[Nick_Pam]

Charles
In March of this year I walked away from a deal on a yacht in Mallorca because I couldn't get the broker to provide some of the information that I required, and felt necessary to clarify the status of the yacht and the finances.
I purchased exactly the same model in the UK through a British broker and took delivery in late April.
I still find it interesting to note that the yacht in Palma is STILL for sale and being plugged very heavily by the broker, almost a year after she went on the market. I often wonder how many others have been put off the purchase by the seemingly underhand behaviour of the people concerned.
Strangely, the owner lives only 7 miles up the road from me and I was dying to drive up and tell him what I thought of the way the deal fell through, but discovered that as far as he was concerned, the broker had told him that it was all my fault as I didn't have the money to pay!!!! Strange that, as I made my purchase only a week after the original deal fell through!!
I would chalk it up to experience and if you love that model of boat so much, go and look for another one - it's a buyers market!!!
Nick

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[CharlesM]

Thanks for that Stephen.

I am feeling a little like I have been dumped by a woman, but you are right. I live to buy another day. I cannot help feeling like it may be a little my fault since this is the second purchase that has fallen through after my offer being accepted. The previous one was the vendor would not sell subject to full survey.

If anyone has brought a ferro-cement boat in Mallorca in the last few days I would like to know. Maybe the boat I looked at & offered on. Would like to know what the settled price was and if certain issues were cleared up.

Cheers
Charles


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[Bodach na mara]

This all reminds me of a series of attempts to buy things (about 35 years ago however)

Saw a nice but neglected boat in a Port Glasgow yard and the yard manager thought the owner was willing to sell. Went round to visit him and he went bananas! The yard had no right-- doing up the boat to sell at a used boat show later in month-- etc etc. The boat deteriorated beyond repair and was broken up.

Similar story about a boat sinking in Bowling Basin, except the lock-keeper told me he had already been told off for passing on an offer to buy to owner. Eventually it could not be refloated.

I had a Skoda Octavia and spares were unobtainable. The only dealership that sold spares was in Aberdeen and they could not get any (which explains why the three year old car was sold to me at auction for £35.) I saw one damaged and laid up on blocks in a garden with the bits I needed but the owner would not discuss breaking it up. When I went back for another go, he got VERY abusive and threatened to call the police, as someone had stolen the bits I wanted. "Not me", I said "because I still want them" but mysteriously, the garage repairing the car told me the next day that they had managed to find some "second hand" parts!

All goes to show that there's nowt so queer as folk

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[graham]

I knew a bloke that would not accept an offer of £500 less than the asking price on his boat.

2 years later after much negotiating he sold it to the same bloke for £200 less than the asking price.The boat was unused throughout the "negotiations "on a berth costing £1200 / year.....

Back to the original post about an obtuse vendor,I think they may well have done you a backhanded favour by selling all the potential problems to someone else.

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[Joe_Cole]

Charles,

I would say "bad luck" but I can't help but feel that you are well out of it. I know the feeling though; we eventually got our boat after 3 failed attempts on others. We're better off now with what we've got than we would have been with any of the previous boats.

Good luck.....you will find what you are looking for.


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[LeonF]

Echo the others Charles. We fall in love and then we lose it without having consumated. I had a Hunter 30 fall through. The deal was negotiated and the cheque arrived on the Friday. A very competitive price had been agreed. the person who was handling the salewas away for the week-end--so they said and over the week-end a higher offer was submitted. They accepted as they said the other broker was unreachable to clarify what had been agreed. I was bloody furious-- steaming with rage and disappointment. But i found a beautiful Sigma 33 and it was a much better boat and better value for money. It's a buyers market and there are many beautiful well maintained boats around. you will find one. just keep looking

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[CharlesM]

Thanks

Thanks everyone.

You are all so supportive. It really feels good to have so many understanding and positive comments. It certainly helps to know this is something that can happen, and that it does not mean the end of my dream. I feel much better about it all.

Cheers
Charles

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