Underwater lights

[MapisM]

the more I think about it the lack of holding tanks is not an issue in open tidal waters & in harbours/marinas there are usually shore based facilities available.

Ok, but it was neither open tidal waters nor marinas that we were talking about.
And the point was whether u/w light can be any more harmful (or annoying) than swimming surrounded by finely shred sh!t and toilet paper.
We can agree to disagree of course, but even if I have no u/w lights on my boat and I'm not thinking to fit any, when I'm in a secluded anchorage I still prefer to be surrounded by boats with u/w lights and black tanks than boats with neither.

But aside from agreeing to disagree on that, I'm afraid you're totally wrong on the following:

Have you ever noticed that your eyes sting in the swimming pool? That is not the chemicals they put in the water, but it is due to the reaction of those chemicals with urine.

I worked for chemical companies for most of my life, and one of them was a producer of swimming pool chlorine, so I know what I'm talking about.
Suffice to say that one of the most critical issues with those tablets is that they must be perfectly water-soluble, because if even the smallest grain remains suspended in the water and it gets in your eye, you can wave good bye to it...!
There are other products meant to colour urine, in order to show who's doing what (used mainly in public swimming pools, obviously). But what makes your eyes sting is definitely chlorine, nothing else.
In fact, while at sea I swim with open eyes, I NEVER do that in any swimming pool. And I'd strongly suggest you to do the same (or at least use googles), if you regularly swim in pools.

 

[Bojangles]

I wonder what this owner needs to compensate for.....

Just ask him, he's on here all the time, but he might be a bit embarrased now everyone knows his true style (that's why it only his head in the avatar)

He's probably hiding out of the way when this photo was taken as it looks like there is a wee jobby sitting just off the stb quarter.

 

[Searush]

Just ask him, he's on here all the time, but he might be a bit embarrased now everyone knows his true style (that's why it only his head in the avatar)

He's probably hiding out of the way when this photo was taken as it looks like there is a wee jobby sitting just off the stb quarter.

Typical MoBo'r, that's the PORT quarter - left hand side when facing the bows (err, OK, front or pointy bit). Do you not have a pair of red & green gloves marked P & S that you could wear? But don't forget they don't work if you turn round & face the other way.

Secondly I have never been to Delaware sadly, so it goes. I suspect the guy's not actually compensating tho', he's probably just afraid of the dark.

 

[wakeup]

Typical MoBo'r, that's the PORT quarter - left hand side when facing the bows (err, OK, front or pointy bit). Do you not have a pair of red & green gloves marked P & S that you could wear? But don't forget they don't work if you turn round & face the other way.

Secondly I have never been to Delaware sadly, so it goes. I suspect the guy's not actually compensating tho', he's probably just afraid of the dark.

Didn't there used to be ignore this poster button ? If you noone replies then I know I am on this list

 

[benjenbav]

I always find your posts of the highest order, wakeup. I wouldn't dream of putting you on "ignore".

 

[sigmasailor]

Just ask him, he's on here all the time, but he might be a bit embarrased now everyone knows his true style (that's why it only his head in the avatar)

He's probably hiding out of the way when this photo was taken as it looks like there is a wee jobby sitting just off the stb quarter.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn his first name would be Ken and he is married to Barbie. I know I shouldn't discuss tastes; let's agree the above is not my taste.

 

[wakeup]

I always find your posts of the highest order, wakeup. I wouldn't dream of putting you on "ignore".

At least I am not on your ignore list BJB.

Seems as though people really don't know that Searush is an escapee from the Giant Troll Zoo Farm.

 

[Bojangles]

Typical MoBo'r, that's the PORT quarter - left hand side when facing the bows (err, OK, front or pointy bit). Do you not have a pair of red & green gloves marked P & S that you could wear? But don't forget they don't work if you turn round & face the other way.

Secondly I have never been to Delaware sadly, so it goes. I suspect the guy's not actually compensating tho', he's probably just afraid of the dark.

Nope, not with you there SR, defo looking at the starboard side, need to get your specs checked. BTW, I know what the P & S stands for on those gloves of yours

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I know I shouldn't discuss tastes; let's agree the above is not my taste.

I think we can agree that a 'wee jobby' is not to anyone's taste (except, apparently, Searush's...).

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[Searush]

Nope, not with you there SR, defo looking at the starboard side, need to get your specs checked. BTW, I know what the P & S stands for on those gloves of yours

The boat is moored starboard side to - which incidentally is the "wrong" side traditionally, so nothing can be seen in the water that side - altho there may be a set of steps to the pontoon there. On the PORT Bow there is a small shadow in the water, probably a leaf, but only that can be what you refer to. Or do you think you are looking at the front of the boat?

Ahh, check the lettering, you may have the picture transposed - does it say Searush or hsuraeS?

 

[Bojangles]

The boat is moored starboard side to - which incidentally is the "wrong" side traditionally, so nothing can be seen in the water that side - altho there may be a set of steps to the pontoon there. On the PORT Bow there is a small shadow in the water, probably a leaf, but only that can be what you refer to. Or do you think you are looking at the front of the boat?

Ahh, check the lettering, you may have the picture transposed - does it say Searush or hsuraeS?

Your at the wind up, I think the steps you believe may be there is actually a stool.. Seriously, you need to check your eyesight if you can't see the wee jobby at the bottom right hand corner of the image. You are also slightly deluded if you think you can see a leaf off the port bow on a boat that is probably over 100 feet long.

 

[MapisM]

The boat is moored starboard side to - which incidentally is the "wrong" side traditionally

Really? Why?
If given a choice, I prefer to moore stbd side to, for the very simple reason that my helm station is on stbd side.
Which otoh is a rather common placement on mobos, for better visibility on the give way sector.

 

[Searush]

Really? Why?
If given a choice, I prefer to moore stbd side to, for the very simple reason that my helm station is on stbd side.
Which otoh is a rather common placement on mobos, for better visibility on the give way sector.

Before boats had rudders (or engines too BTW ) they used a steering oar on the r/h side or Steer board (hence starboard). The port side was called Larboard, but to prevent confusion, this was later changed to Port. When coming alongside a quay it was normal to have the steering oar on the outside to avoid damage & assist berthing/ departure.

I realise that modern plastic tubs with engines no longer need to berth port side too, which is why I said "Traditional". It's a nice little bit of history & I am pleased to say that in Caernarfon where I berth on the old Slate Quay it is still practised. Bit pointless for mobos in marina parking spaces tho.

I think mobos are probably more influenced by cars than boats with their helms over to one side.

 

[Simondjuk]

Which otoh is a rather common placement on mobos, for better visibility on the give way sector.

What an ill-conceived notion. It might explain a lot though.

 

[jfm]

What an ill-conceived notion. It might explain a lot though.

Can you explain why please Simon? I'm curious, having always preferred starboard side or centre line helms on motorboats for the reason MapisM states.

 

[SolentPhill]

Before boats had rudders (or engines too BTW ) they used a steering oar on the r/h side or Steer board (hence starboard). The port side was called Larboard, but to prevent confusion, this was later changed to Port. When coming alongside a quay it was normal to have the steering oar on the outside to avoid damage & assist berthing/ departure.

I realise that modern plastic tubs with engines no longer need to berth port side too, which is why I said "Traditional". It's a nice little bit of history & I am pleased to say that in Caernarfon where I berth on the old Slate Quay it is still practised. Bit pointless for mobos in marina parking spaces tho.

I think mobos are probably more influenced by cars than boats with their helms over to one side.

Early English boats were built like large canoes, (influenced by the Vikings dragon ships) which didn't have rudders. Most sailors were right handed so steering the boat was done by swinging a steering paddle or oar over the right side.

boat builders would fasten two pegs into the top strake of the boat, near the back on the right side. The steering oar would then be placed between the two pegs and secured with leather (simple rudder).

The sailors using these boats would lean on the top strake on the left side ( larboard), and steer from the right so sailors began calling the right side strake as the steering board or Starboard in early english'

Since these boats had big steering Oars on the right side it was much easier to tie the boat up on the left side. Supplies had to be "ported" (carried by a porter a person employed to carry supplies) so the port side comes from the word "porter"

‘The left side of the ship is called port, by Admiralty Order, in preference to larboard, as less mistakable in sound for starboard’

This is why we use the word Port as a place for cargo to be loaded and unloaded, as in returning to port.

This terminology became official in1844 for the British Navy and 1846 for the U.S. Navy.

 

[gjgm]

[I think mobos are probably more influenced by cars than boats with their helms over to one side.[/QUOTE]
Ummm, not sure that many countries have car steering wheel on the right?
Scandinavia.. nope;France..nope;Italy..nope,Holland..nope..USA..nope.
Which mobo building countries were you thinking of, other than UK?

 

[benjenbav]

Okey dokey so, we give way to boats on our right - just like a UK (clockwise) roundabout; yes? But we pass boats going in the other direction port side to port side - like a continental (LHD) road.

WHY?

The effect is that wheel on starboard side of wheelhouse/bridge is good for some things and not so good for others. (As is having wheel on port side).

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Okey dokey so, we give way to boats on our right - just like a UK (clockwise) roundabout; yes? But we pass boats going in the other direction port side to port side - like a continental (LHD) road.

WHY?

The effect is that wheel on starboard side of wheelhouse/bridge is good for some things and not so good for others. (As is having wheel on port side).

On my Princess 42, the flybridge helm was to port, and the lower helm was to starboard, which seemed a sensible arrangement to me.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Anyway, I think we're losing sight of the OP again. To get us firmly back on topic, apparently this boat has underwater lights:

Although I couldn't actually find any pictures showing them...

Cheers
Jimmy