Two or more warps?

[jimi]

When mooring up I always just use two long warps one forward and one aft with the breast rope off to the shore cleat & tied off & then back to the boat as a spring. I've always had a slight doubt as to whether this is really the thing to do, particularly with potential wear in the middle of the rope. Any thoughts?

Jim

 

[Boathook]

I somtimes just use 2 warps for tying up and have not noticed any undue wear. Overall though it does seem easier to use individual warps as they can each be adjusted individualy rather than stripping a warp back to the beginning.

 

[sailbadthesinner]

I was always taught one rope one job. I have however done as you have but only when i have only had really long warps that have been a pain to handle.
I do prefer to have a seperate spring and feel it is probably best practice to do so.

I was also taught as a stopper the double thumb knot (donot know any other term for it) i find it much better than a figure eight, but later instructors have taken a dim view. And donot ask about fenders. It all comes down to taste for fenders.

It was like that when i found it

 

[Skyva_2]

Sometimes I do the same, but my preference is to use independent breast warps and springs: it makes it easier to handle the lines if you need to set up springs to get off in an onshore breeze, or lead lines back to the boat if sailing two handed.

Particularly if neighbouring boats wrap their lines all over the same cleats (see many recent posts).

Keith

 

[ParaHandy]

I think it is inherently bad because if the springs are tied off together somehere in the middle of the boat, the springs can't "spring" and will hold the boat hard against it's fenders....pontoon moorings are so short these days which makes it more awkward.

As an aside.....I have 2x25mtrs of 18mm 3 strand nylon sold to me last year by Aladdins Cave as fit for mooring which I will happily give to aspiring circus performer/Indian fakir looking for a suitable prop for the rope trick. These ropes are so stiff you can get all of it in the air unsupported (well, nearly). A mug comes along every day...........

 

[jimi]

I sometimes use the double thumb as a stopper , when I really want it to stop and am not too worried about undoing it. I think the reason the figure of eight is used is that it can be easily undone if necessary. Ithink you're right though & I'll start using separate ropes.

Jim

 

[jimi]

Have you tried stretching or washing them?

Jim

 

[ParaHandy]

Ah yes, there's a washing machine over t'other side (of channel) which now makes slight graunching sounds..........It didn't even come out any bluidy cleaner. Tried dragging it behind - much to amusement of Yarmouth HM who asked if it was Irish washing??

According to Aladdins Cave problem through being outside all time............beam me up, pleeease.........

 

[sailbadthesinner]

Is that the same stuff that seems to have an opposite polarity to cleats and refuses to make fast?

I found if you cut it into 32 inch lengths it makes handy piping for trousers that allows you stand them in the corner. ;-)

It was like that when i found it

 

[jimi]

You can't be scottish .. your legs are too long!

Jim

 

[ParaHandy]

Re: Two or more dildos?

or a bit shorter and you'd have one or two or....

helps if you're warped round 'ere......!!

 

[sailbadthesinner]

I'll have you now i have distinguished scottish ancestry
my Great Great Grandfather was a freeman of the city of glasgow

unfortunately we are all english now. tho' retain gilchrist as a family name in his honour

It was like that when i found it

 

[jimi]

Warping off

Often wondered what the expression meant!

Jim

 

[ParaHandy]

Re: Warping off

hoots of laughter...........!!!!

 

[JeremyF]

The stuff Alladin's are selling now at £1.50 pm is fantastic value, and soft, unlike some 3 strand I bought out of the bins at Marine Sperstore. So soft, it comes with an Andrex puppy

Jeremy Flynn

 

[ParaHandy]

Ooh yeah.........like to see you blowing yer hooter with that stuff in 6 months time..... Might sneak a look, though? I bought (out of same bin?) some 20mm multi plait for £10 - could tie the QE2 up with it but no complaints so far from crew......

 

[hlb]

Yer not on yet own. I had two of them things once. Luckily they got broke in the gales last year.

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[claymore]

Is that when it goes once round the deck, twice round his neck and then up his arse for a stopper?

regards
Claymore

 

[jimi]

Aye Aye ah can see the Jeans

I got that wrong did'nt I! 32 outside leg is the median for a Scotsman! I got confused between the outside & the inside .. tae lang in Bar L!!!

Jim

 

[rich]

5 short ones for marinas,and 2, 40footers for channel ilands

rich ) Why pay, when you can do it yourself?