Peppermint
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I've never been there, though I lived in Cyprus for a while, so I don't know the answer. Do those of you who do go there think Turkey should join the EU?
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Turkey Stuffed this Christmas?
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Sgeir
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In view of comments on other threads, I have a feeling that some forumites will start ranting on about the Seige of Vienna.
It's lifted guys.
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It's lifted guys.
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jhr
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Yes, they are one of the few stable, secular and democratic nations with an Islamic population, and they provide a useful role model for others. If we don't encourage them to develop and to participate in Western-style democracy, I fear they may revert to being a fundamentalist theocracy.
They need to stop torturing and killing their citizens first. But then, p'raps we're not entirely blameless in this regard, either?
<hr width=100% size=1>Je suis Marxiste - tendance Groucho
They need to stop torturing and killing their citizens first. But then, p'raps we're not entirely blameless in this regard, either?
<hr width=100% size=1>Je suis Marxiste - tendance Groucho
Bergman
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They could take our place
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ccscott49
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Nah! Dont let them in, they arent welcome!!
Stops the eu spoiling great cruising grounds and good people and prices going through the roof like greece! OK I'm being selfish,
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Stops the eu spoiling great cruising grounds and good people and prices going through the roof like greece! OK I'm being selfish,
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mirabriani
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Now then JHR "Do as I say" not "Do as I do"
Don't let them join until they give back North Cyprus.
What do I care?
We should have stayed out and formed closer trading alliance with
our real friends.... Australia, New Zealand, Canada when
they had the £. Speak English (sort of) too.
Regards and Merry Christmas Briani
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Don't let them join until they give back North Cyprus.
What do I care?
We should have stayed out and formed closer trading alliance with
our real friends.... Australia, New Zealand, Canada when
they had the £. Speak English (sort of) too.
Regards and Merry Christmas Briani
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GeoffW
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Since when has Turkey been a European country. Half of it is in Asia.
Islam is not a European religion.
The EU is a group of industrial civilised nations. It is not open to countries where most of the population have not moved on since the Middle Ages.
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Islam is not a European religion.
The EU is a group of industrial civilised nations. It is not open to countries where most of the population have not moved on since the Middle Ages.
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Andrew_Fanner
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The EU is a group of industrial civilised nations. It is not open to countries where most of the population have not moved on since the Middle Ages
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Why are the French in then?
<hr width=100% size=1>Two beers please, my friend is paying.
The EU is a group of industrial civilised nations. It is not open to countries where most of the population have not moved on since the Middle Ages
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Why are the French in then?
<hr width=100% size=1>Two beers please, my friend is paying.
Sgeir
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Hmm.. "Islam is not a European religion." Interesting concept. What about the Balkans then?
Anyway, I thought Christianity came from somewhere south of Turkey.
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Anyway, I thought Christianity came from somewhere south of Turkey.
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kingfisher
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GEOGRAPHICALY: I was always tought that Europe stretches from the Ural Mountains (see Ukraine) to the Bosphorus. So at least a part of Turkey is scientifically part of Europe
HISTORICALLY: the Turks made it to Vienna at some point, so there is no denying that their history is linked to ours. Should I mention the cruisades ?
RELIGION: If we decide that Europe is based on christian principles (as the Poles so nicely put it), that means that we cannot allow several Balkan states to enter.
ECONOMY: Turkey is a major trade partner with the EU and a huge market for goods.
CULTURE: Turkey is participating in, and has won, the Eurovision songcontest. So if it is good enough for Terry Wogan, it is good enough for me.
I rest my case.
PS: the problem is that the media never shows te modern Turkey, but prefers to send us the clichés: men herding sheep and using ox-driven carts. It would be like profiling the UK by transmitting images of Swansea or Queensborough.
<hr width=100% size=1>Group of people on the pontoon: skipper is the one with the toolbox.
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HISTORICALLY: the Turks made it to Vienna at some point, so there is no denying that their history is linked to ours. Should I mention the cruisades ?
RELIGION: If we decide that Europe is based on christian principles (as the Poles so nicely put it), that means that we cannot allow several Balkan states to enter.
ECONOMY: Turkey is a major trade partner with the EU and a huge market for goods.
CULTURE: Turkey is participating in, and has won, the Eurovision songcontest. So if it is good enough for Terry Wogan, it is good enough for me.
I rest my case.
PS: the problem is that the media never shows te modern Turkey, but prefers to send us the clichés: men herding sheep and using ox-driven carts. It would be like profiling the UK by transmitting images of Swansea or Queensborough.
<hr width=100% size=1>Group of people on the pontoon: skipper is the one with the toolbox.
http://sirocco31.tripod.com
Peppermint
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Re: Is it wrong then?
This image thats put about where one or two cities are modern and the rest of the rural idyll is full of rustic goatherds, fulminating about the greeks and murdering their females on the weekends.
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This image thats put about where one or two cities are modern and the rest of the rural idyll is full of rustic goatherds, fulminating about the greeks and murdering their females on the weekends.
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kingfisher
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Re: Is it wrong then?
A bit like britain, then ?
<hr width=100% size=1>Group of people on the pontoon: skipper is the one with the toolbox.
http://sirocco31.tripod.com
A bit like britain, then ?
<hr width=100% size=1>Group of people on the pontoon: skipper is the one with the toolbox.
http://sirocco31.tripod.com
Peppermint
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Re: You must
live in a more interesting place than I do.
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live in a more interesting place than I do.
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