TSS/Separation zones?

[Severnman]

You are quite correct Sailfree - that is exactly what you should do. Twister - I do not need Rule 10 rammed down my throat. As a professional master mariner I can assure you I had to learn my rules verbatim - and all the associated law (including very interesting case law) that went with them. I have spent a considerable amount of time as a senior officer on cross channel ferries crossing the Dover TSS often having to deal with those who have little knowledge of the Collision Regs. Read Rule 10c and 10e again. I argue that it does not have to be written expressly. Good seamanship, common sense and the provisions of these clauses dictate otherwise.

 

[Malish]

the wording is ' as nearly as practicable to 90 degrees' I would therefore suggest that if you have a motor you would use it to comply. If no motor then a discussion with the coastguard would probably avoid a unwanted call from them on the VHF

 

[Twister_Ken]

Then please point us at case law that says the sepzone also has to be crossed at right angles.

 

[VicS]

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You are quite correct Sailfree

[/ QUOTE ] So how does a sailing vessel with no engine cross a TSS if at 90° to the traffic flow the wind is from dead ahead.

 

[Sailfree]

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You are quite correct Sailfree

[/ QUOTE ] So how does a sailing vessel with no engine cross a TSS if at 90° to the traffic flow the wind is from dead ahead.

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It may be good seamanship to drop sails and use engine but where does it state that this is what you should do. I accept its probably more practical with modern boats and powerful engines but I am not sure of older sailing boats with auxillary engines.

And assuming it is allowed to sail in a TSS who is the stand on vessel? Sorry just read Severnmans more detailed reply "boats under 20m shall not impede a power vessel proceding in a TSS.

Its threads like this that providing no one posts completly wrong info are so educational!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Severnman]

Really my last shout on this folks! MCGA Marine Guidance Note 364 refers to the Dover TSS. Note section 2.3 and 2.11. 2.3 refers to the MCGA's view that a vessel should cross a 'TSS' at right angles - not just a lane but the whole damn caboosh. 2.11 may clear up your point Sailfree - or it may not!! Available on the MCGA website.

 

[VicS]

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Available on the MCGA website

[/ QUOTE ] and by clicking on the link I gave earlier in this thread!

 

[alant]

There is an excellent diagram in McMillan/Reeds showing exactly this should be done!