Trotman barge below Hampton court

Time Out said:
You message has now gone ! Nothing controversial?
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Sorry, I deleted the post to avoid any issue over photo ownership, straight after posting, but you had read it and replied in a flash!
For the record in case anyone cares, the deleted post said I don't think the sunk boat's hull is steel - it looked like timber to me.
 
The picture came from the internet ( Twitter) and you captioned it / made reference etc.

Well within your rights.

I still maintain that when the studio flats are built they will all be gone in a flash. Be it legal or non legal in terms of how !
 
Time Out said:
The picture came from the internet ( Twitter) and you captioned it / made reference etc.

Well within your rights.

I still maintain that when the studio flats are built they will all be gone in a flash. Be it legal or non legal in terms of how !
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That's the problem - EA have to do everything within the law (sometimes that itself is lacking / unclear / silent) and often in concert with other authorities.

In the private sector 'a bundle of notes' will often suffice, or other action (nudge, nudge).
 
Privatisation.

I think it will come before long (~10 years). Canal river trust (crt) are going to take over the Thames River navigation responsibilities at some point. Seems to me that CRT are a stepping stone between national and private ownership of inland waterways infrastructure.
I don't want to be right about this.
 
Sadly I thought you had news of a sinking ... I can't believe the amount of locals tweeting how wonderful the lock cut looks at sunrise with all the boats on view !
 
At a mere £49,000, he must be looking for a quick a sale:D
Either that or he's trying to show the court that he's trying his best to sell it, while buying time and collecting rent.
He's had thousands of pounds worth of free moorings off the EA since August, he really has taken them(the office wallahs)for mugs. If I was the lockie I'd be tearing my hair out by now.
 
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If we are generous the underlying lighter is worth £30K tops. The infrastructure on top is worth about a negative £10K to demolish and dispose of (assuming no asbestos and moored in a better location). It's still priced more than 2X any realistic market value.

Looks like the EA are now allowing Teddington Lock to be used as a base to moor your boat while it's up for sale as well as a free place to run your business from. I'd have thought a 'duty of care' towards their employees (in the line of fire - literally - if this goes up) and also to the public would have led to it's removal by now.
 
Lower Limit 1909 said:
If we are generous the underlying lighter is worth £30K tops. The infrastructure on top is worth about a negative £10K to demolish and dispose of (assuming no asbestos and moored in a better location). It's still priced more than 2X any realistic market value.
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One thing that Trotman fails to mention, is the large quantity of rat poison stuffed in the ceiling.
 
Actionmat said:
What now? I presume the PLA have sharper and more effective teeth than the EA, or is the buck likely to be passed to LBRuT(the council)?
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Well, for now he's moored to an EA facility in EA water, so sadly I don't think PLA will do more than stare meaningfully when they cruise past.
 
That part is tidal, Dave.

But you don't need an EA licence on that side of the lock, so it's the PLA surely?
Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Trotman had found another loophole
 
PLA official boundary is just downstream of this,marked by an obelisk.
EA choose not to enforce licenses below the lock.
 
Actionmat said:
That part is tidal, Dave.

But you don't need an EA licence on that side of the lock, so it's the PLA surely?
Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Trotman had found another loophole
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At the risk of taking the thread off topic, how does that work with Richmond lock then? I can imagine it perhaps being tidal over a limited range? Just had a look on Google earth, and the satellite image captured appears to show the river below Richmond lock at low water, and the stretch between Teddington and Richmond still full.

So he's now found a niche, in a short stretch the EA don't don't enforce but just above the PLA jurisdiction.
 
ProDave said:
At the risk of taking the thread off topic, how does that work with Richmond lock then? I can imagine it perhaps being tidal over a limited range? Just had a look on Google earth, and the satellite image captured appears to show the river below Richmond lock at low water, and the stretch between Teddington and Richmond still full.

So he's now found a niche, in a short stretch the EA don't don't enforce but just above the PLA jurisdiction.
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It's half tidal between Richmond and teddington. Gates are lowered at half tide to keep the water in the stretch above Richmond. I think trotman is into a winner here. No need for a licence or BSS.
 
ProDave said:
the satelliappears to show the river below Richmond lock at low water, and the stretch between Teddington and Richmond still full.
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It's constantly being filled by what comes over the weir, but what looks full is often pretty shallow and at times, just a trickle in the middle of the mud. You don't see many outdrive boats moored at that end:)
 
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