Trolls and Newbies

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Once you start setting boundaries and defining a purpose for (these) (any) forums you are sliding down the slippery slope of disappointment and frustration......

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Depends on whether one sees it as one's duty to police the boundaries, or just accept where things go. I think (any) forum such as this has to have some sort of purpose (why would it exist otherwise?), but accept that this purpose can evolve. I still find sufficient of interest to keep coming back most days (at least once!) If that changes, I won't bother. As someone else said - one shouldn't confuse the forums with the real world.

Andy
 
and if personal comments and attacks were not allowed at all there would be far fewer problems anyway . If a newbie arrives on here and starts posting , whatever they post , I go with Brendans comment about civil behaviour but I'd increase it to 100 posts
 
When a group see that some self enforced rules make life easier, it makes everyone's life easier.

There was one particularly poignant thread on mobo where a large number of people on a thread picked on a newbie that seemed like a troll, trying to get a windscreen for a boat. Turns out she was a boating teenager, and was attested for after the damage had already been done.

It was occasions like that that helped bring in the give the newbie 10 posts to give credence and explain before launching in, and the regulars learnt lessons from that and similar episodes.

As more people came on board, they weren't aware of the lessons that had been learnt previously, and didn't respect the rules.

I guess it will go through cycles.
 
Oh god no, that would spoil the fun for everyone. Frank and free discussions are what makes this place, and no way would people ever get to 100 posts without being taken to task for something. 10 is a reasonable number to allow anyone, before they start learning their way around
 
sod cycles , can't they put something to stop that sort of thing happening anyway , I know it's sometimes funny to pick on teenagers but there should be something to stop it , poor old woodey would have been mortified


and OK , 10 it is
 
I remember the debate, and at the time I didn't feel strongly either way. It doesn't seem to have had the take-up that it might have had (loads of posts, but usually only a dozen or so people viewing), and maybe it's got something to do with the change I think I'm seeing. Personally, I think the lounge will fizzle out as the banter finds its way back to the other forums. I may be wrong. It's happened before /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Andy

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I'm not aware of what went on in the past but I don't see the lounge fizling out , it's got too much in there that doesn't really have anywhere else to go , but the newbie problem is accross the board
 
The lounge stuff was all over scuttlebutt & PBO (I didn't read MOBO then, and don't read the others). As per previous post, I could see the argument for giving it somewhere else (try a whole screen full of Scottish dialect threads /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif), but recognised that it might take something away from the existing forums.

I have to say that I'd never heard of the '10 post rule' (perhaps I should look for some rules somewhere??), but would exect that new posters would be given plenty of slack as is common practice as a matter of general etiquette.

Andy

(P.S. "It's happened before = me being wrong, not lounge fizzling out)
 
10 post rule

i don't remeber the actual number, tho i do remember ripping into a few newbies. and getting done over for it. There again, i was ripped at after only three posts erk, something like"sounds like you have just come back from the pub, hm?"!.

Yes, the lounge has detracted from general breadth of footfall in mobochat at least.
 
from what I read in between the lines , this was never a hard and fast , written in stone rule , but I can see the potential damage that could be done especially if people are supposed to be encouraging youngsters to get in to boating , so I don't see any problem with the rule being set out as a standard , but watched over by the growing band of moderators
 
the ten post rule was never set by moderators. It was a self imposed rule that largely predominated on mobo forum. Tho back then, mobo forum was where all the action was, and lots of scuttlebutt peeps used to come and play, and say it was far more fun than other forums. The beginnings of cross forums posting largely. The posting rate there was far higher than any other forum at that time.

Scottish dialect postings and fun on Scuttlebutt came later, and was the time when fun postings moved from mobo to Scuttlebutt, and when Scuttlebutt overtook mobo in posting stakes.
 
10 post rule is a good one,as no one should be put off and to some that first post is very intimidating. Of course the professional troll, and there’s a few on here, will slide in a few remarks and then sit back and watch the fun, these are the most valuable members of the forum as without them the less opinionated tree huggers take over and everyone goes to sleep.

But it is an art, but there is a very fine dividing line between someone asking a pertinent question and an out and out troll.
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who will police it though. It used to be the case that everyone accepted it, and anyone straying from it was politely reminded. These days if you tried it, you'd end up with a 100 post thread about forum police

can't expect the moderators to do it as they have day jobs, and these unwritten rules have to be part of the culture of the forums, not an argument each time they are mentioned,
 
Having never trolled nor posted anything to cause any intentional consternation in my life I wouldn't recognise a trolling post even if I fell over it.

John
 
which is why I get annoyed when people accuse me of a troll posting , sometimes I have a giggle but if I want serious advice on a boaty topic I come out of the lounge , some people just bring it with them
 
Yes Brendan the whole thing has gone full circle with the newbies flaming the old guard but I dunno how can you strike a balance. Trouble is some believe that their role is to sit in judgment over everything that’s said and of course that’s a privilege that’s not restricted to the old guard. Nice thing about the internet is you can bide your time and strike back when they aren’t looking, not that I would of course. In fact I find a grudge only lasts a couple of hours.


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Double ids can`t see the point in that.
It’s a bit like cheating at golf,

What are the signs

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