Trolls and Newbies

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You didn't seem to get the full message, I went on to say

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Problem is these days if you try to have members enforce such good sense rules, the 'old hands' trying to enforce them will get flamed and attacked as forum police, so no one bothers anymore.

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I made the point that no one bothers to enforce them.

The policy back then of giving newbies an easy time for 10 posts seems eminently sensible, and can't understand why I seem to being flamed by a couple of people for even having brought it up. It was probably mainly on the mobo forum back when I lurked and joined, but then Mobo forum was where most of the action was.
 
Stingo.I think this thread has been completely counterproductive. Any Newbies will be tightening the chin straps and hoping the claymore mines are pointing the right way....
 
Too late. Maybe they will take the first post and reply to heart and ignore the subsequent banter.
 
Firmly with guns holstered, but I beg to differ.
If the same - apparently naive - question is repeated 6 times, under two different user names, it seems all too natural to start wondering if it's just a joke! Does that qualify as newbie-bashing by the Group?

Seriously: if one posts something like "Hi, I'm no climber but I firmly intend to go and climb mount Everest, what's the best time of the year to do it?", should we just answer "go and do it dude!" or should we - responsibly, I believe - point out that this is no small feat and that there is more to it that just selecting the time of the year, and that it should not be tackled lightly?
 
Well I started posting on here and can't remember what the hell it was about, but never had any flack.
It may just be because I joined running threads and didn't start new threads with an air of apparent ease.
For someone to appear as a 1 poster with a ludicrously contentious posting does raise the hackles.

I have never had anyone post anything in the least abusive towards me and find the air of loving, and bonhommie, overwhelming on these forums.




Nurse, I need the bedpan.

Hello mother.
 
Nope ....still here ..watching , laughing, learning, making tentative and sometimes clumsy steps away from 'newbiedom' but into what I ask?
 
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I have never had anyone post anything in the least abusive towards me and find the air of loving, and bonhommie, overwhelming on these forums.


[/ QUOTE ] Maybe you didn't notice because you were too busy posting?
 
14 posts and only one silly question. Not a bad record really, considering the number of questions offered.
 
er, Can I ask a newbie question please your majesty.

Please mr brendan sir , er if I want to be a fff fully fledged formolite

Do I have to have a computer??


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Re: Trolls, Newbies - and the rest . . .

After only a few months I really do regret not having the opportunity to write a thesis on the Psychology of Posting - there is so much fascinating material here!

Gentlemen, please extend your vocabulary to describe the psychotic freaks who live in a fantasy world far removed from actual boating. I can see how this keyboard-bashing becomes addictive, but I do NOT understand those of you whose experience falls far short of what you are all too quick to mouth off about.

Of the posters hereabouts I have met

A obsessed with reaching his next 1000th post;
B with boat so badly maintained as to be unseaworthy;
C specialist in a class but lacks any broader experience;
D justifyies port over stb'd as a courtesy;
E dismisses a good pub as his wife doesn't like the decor;
F claims knowledge of harbours he's never ever been into;
G expert navigator who regularly goes aground;
H is skipper who always makes a hash of marina parking.

But the real freaks are those, (probably beyond salvation!) who are mortally offended at any difference of opinion and spew their emotional hearts out to draw us into their world of attack and counter-attack, agression and remorse. Sick!

I look forward to meeting more of you in the near future, for that's where it counts. NOT, I hasten to add, to prove superior skills and wider experience, but because boating is, or should be, a great leveller AND a continual classroom for us all.

There are some I shan't meet, DV: they are best behind their PC's turning out the same old mis-spelt, ungrammatical, obscene, hysterical crap.

No names no packdrill of course . . .

But they're easily identified, just look at the profiles: anonymous.
 
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Anyone who discovers forums and is that vulnerable in 2006, not surviving this relatively tame one, deserves a Darwin award anyway.

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I beg to disagree (gulp!):

This was going to be a quick comment, but I feel the need for the full £1 argument.

As I see it, these forums exist at 2 levels - as a fund of shared knowlege where folk with a common interest can ask advice or bounce ideas around, and as a "chat room" where people familiar with each other can joke and banter.

Until fairly recently, I feel that the balance lay with the former. Yes there was some banter, but this seemed to go on in the background, when things got quiet. My impression now is that the balance has flipped, and the main traffic is banter and "in" jokes (many of which I'm aware of, but that's not the point), to the level that people could feel that it is an interruption to ask for advice. No, there's nothing to stop them, and Yes, if they've been on other forums or newsgroups, this one is pretty tame, but it doesn't encourage people in as it once did (IMHO). Without the boaty questions, and especially the trip reports, this forum wouldn't have much going for it.

I didn't agree with the "clique" posts, but perhaps I've just realised I'm making a similar argument.

Relative newbie, not many posts, but "something is changing".

Andy
 
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...hic , will post when sober next time, this may be my last post..lols
 
Dear Mr Albert, yes it helps a great deal to have a computer, as otherwise you may have difficulties accessing the forums. However, you might consider alternatives such as using computers at your local library.
 
I see it as the other way around. Before the lounge was created, far more joviality went on in the main three boating forums, and the balance has, long term, gone from fun, frivolity and joviality, to mainly boating on those forums
 
Re: Trolls, Newbies - and the rest . . .

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.....I look forward to meeting more of you in the near future, for that's where it counts.....

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....and that is where your thesis would flounder, you are confusing this cyber world with the real world. If you want to meet people, switch off your computer, get down to the marina/boatyard/harbour and don't confuse this with the real world.
 
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