Trip from Newark to York - Can this be done in a day

I have 150l tank. Enough Jerrys for another 45l. If we take it easy we should have plenty. Worst case I call the mrs and she can drive over with more. I guess we will be ok
I can tootle about Newark for 15 hours on 3/4 of a tank.
If we use the tide and stay at about 6-8 mph at 1000rpm I should be ok.
 
There is petrol at Gainsborough - if required.
From the pontoon you can walk back to the road bridge where there is a petrol station. You will probably want a trolley for your jerry can.
 
MartynG said:
There is petrol at Gainsborough - if required.
From the pontoon you can walk back to the road bridge where there is a petrol station. You will probably want a trolley for your jerry can.
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Good news! Thanks for the info. Anyone any ideas on best dates for departure looking at the tide times in my previous post?
 
People will be reluctant to plan your passage for you in case of incident.
Easter weekend looks better tide times to me.
 
MartynG said:
People will be reluctant to plan your passage for you in case of incident.
Easter weekend looks better tide times to me.
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Apologies again. And thanks for the nod for Easter.

I wasn't looking for a passage plan. Just general advice on which day the tides look favourable to complete the journey. I am looking to not have any incident :-)
 
chelleon said:
Apologies again. And thanks for the nod for Easter.

I wasn't looking for a passage plan. Just general advice on which day the tides look favourable to complete the journey. I am looking to not have any incident :-)
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That's for you to plan I'm afraid.

It's your trip.

First off decide where you plan to stop along the way and then work out which day gives you the best tide times to A reach that destination and B leave it again the next day.
 
CX54WEK said:
That's for you to plan I'm afraid.

It's your trip.

First off decide where you plan to stop along the way and then work out which day gives you the best tide times to A reach that destination and B leave it again the next day.
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Thanks all, I think I get the general idea! Again I know I am responsible for my plan. (I have done the RYA Courses) It was more of a general consensus from people who have made that trip before, and have any positive comments, things that perhaps caught them out in the past..
 
Positive comment is that York is a lovely city to visit by boat and well worth the trip there.

I would also thoroughly recommend coming back via the inland route Selby to Keadby. That's a lovely run as well.
 
CX54WEK said:
Positive comment is that York is a lovely city to visit by boat and well worth the trip there.

I would also thoroughly recommend coming back via the inland route Selby to Keadby. That's a lovely run as well.
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Oops - I don't mean that any of the replies received weren't 'positive'! Everyone has been very helpful, and I appreciate the time people have spent replying with snippets...

I am looking forward to York.... It's a big first trip for us!
 
another source of help are the lock keepers at Cromwell and Naburn. How deep the water will be further down the river is heavily influenced by recent rainfall. The lock keepers seem to have a good "feel" for what the going will be like too. Regarding planning, I've done this trip 6 - 7 times and its never gone exactly to plan. I have touched the bottom a few times around goole and the top of the trent. If you sense / feel you have touched down, put the engines in neutral immediately and let things settle before moving forwards (or backwards). You can get tide tables from ABP/Kildale marine that give heights and times at places along the river as well as the humber estuary. I found them very useful as you can't predict it with the humber tidal curve. I think it gives high and low water at the west stockwith and keadby from memory. As long as you don't drive like a loony, worst case scenario you end up on a sand bank feeling a bit silly. The majority of the river bed is mud and sand and you would be very unlucky to hit anything hard. The water will get deeper sooner or later. Have a brew and try and look like you did it on purpose rather than anchor. I found sitting with a fishing rod was a good disguise.
 
something else that might help you decide when to set off. The entrance to the locks at west stockwith and keadby are quite narrow. If there is a strong current, getting in can be difficult and potentially dangerous as you need to get the boat sideways on to the flow and get into a narrow gap - tricky and high probability of hitting something. So its worked best for me to arrive at the locks sometime between an hour before or an hour after high water at the relevant lock. This way you are travelling mostly on a rising water level so things get easier as you go further.

Depending where you are traveling the current may be against you (cromwell to keadby) or with you (Trent falls to Naburn). so just bear that in mind you may need more fuel depending which bit of the trip you are doing. Coming back from York, you have to anchor at the Apex and wait for the tide. Don't be tempted to go early and "see how it goes" force yourself to wait quite a few hours until its deep and then it can be great fun (and fast). So setting off time depends on how much water you need at Goole lock to get past it, and around the corner to the anchorage. Again talk to the lock keeper. From memory I think I used to set off from Naburn lock as soon as the lock started operating, so you get a mix of rising and then falling water level.

If you decide to overnight at Hull again you need to arrive +2 or -2 hours of high water else you can't lock in. In order to do that you have to anchor at the Apex and wait for the water to rise to a really good depth before you set off.
 
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I think that demonstrates the issues perfectly. That must around high water judging by the level on the bank - beautifully judged entry
 
I will have to video my 'attempt' for you guys to have a laugh at! That approach was timed to perfection..

Thanks for the links as it does show just how much timing is important,.. I carried on watching as the youtube videos selected others an there was a barge and a boat that ran aground on that entrance, so tide timing again I suspect is important.. I will attempt when it is neap then a little less aggressive methinks..

Keep 'em coming :-)
 
The tide romps in at West Stockwith - ebbs a bit more gently .
Do phone the lock keeper the day before to make sure they are expecting you.
 
Thanks Martyn, I think the best attack for me, would be aiming at hitting it at lowish ebb tide considering I have to get down from Newark, and then leave at as low tide as possible and sit by the trent end until the flood starts and we are on our way.. Thats my thinking at the moment..

i do have the contacts for all the lock keepers on speed dial :-)
 
OK so we are getting closer to the Off.
I have spoken to the keep at Keadby (lovely informative Chap) and between us we have agreed that the best day/s would be the 10th/11th April.. Neap tide so nothing major to travel against... and timing is perfect for the run down from Newark/overnight and up he Ouse to York..
Charts have arrived and been studied!
Lets hope the weather is as nice as today...
 
If the weather is as nice as today, forget overnighting at Keadby. Spend the night at Trent End on the hook. It will be far nicer.
 
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