Trintella

[browndogtripper]

My wife and I put in an offer on a Trintella 29 in Seattle, WA and are doing our sea trials Friday. I'd appreciate any information you might have on the boat. I'm confused on where it was built and by whom, Anne Weaver or Tyler. I'm also wondering about the deck stepped mast and teak overlays. Are you aware of any problems with either. Are the decks solid glass or are they cored? And the hull? Also, is her handling under power any more difficult than other full keelers? Is there anything else I should know... It is difficult to find any information over here in Washington State.
Andrew

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[derekja]

That's a nice boat. I went up to see it last weekend and was quite impressed. I decided that I wasn't quite ready to jump on it, though. Guess it's not going to wait around for me to get ready!

A fellow on the board here sent me a nice magazine review of the Trintella 29, send me some email and I'll forward it along to you.

Have fun with it!

--Derek


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[Chris_Stannard]

I have now had two boats with deck stepped masts and have never found it to be a problem from the safety point of view. A word of caution and please understand that my old boat was not a Trintella.
The problems that I found were as follows:
The mast sits on a compression tube which has a plate on the top. This is all below deck. If water seeps through onto the plate, and the post is made of mild steel over time this will corrode and the tube then needs replacing. It cost about £500 to do this for a 36 footer in UK. Early sign of this sort of a problem may be slight distortion in the deck area around the mast foor, but it is as well to take the head lining down and have a look to see what sort of a state the plate is in.
The other problem that I had was the mast heel bracket, which sits on the deck. Mine cracked and had to be replace, again this was not a terrifically expensive job, but have a good look, and if you have sensitive fingers feel, all over htis area to make sure it is sound.

The only problem I have ever heard off with teak decks is that they need replacing in due course, and how long that is is a function of how well the boat was built in the first place.

Good sailing.

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[heerenleed]

I.ve located the web site of the Dutch Trintella owners circle. I can imagine it's difficult to locate for non-Dutch. Here it is:
http://home.hccnet.nl/j.vanden.burg/ukindex.html
This is the English version of the site. I'm sure they will be delighted to give you all the info you might want.

Good luck & happy sailing

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[jamesjermain]

Trintella 29s were built by Anne Weaver in Holland and moulded by Tylers, fitted out by Offshore Yachts, in the UK. Also built by others elsewhere in Europe, I believe.

They are very solid boats with a good reputation. Don't worry about the deck stepped mast. Comments already posted are valid but the Trintellas are sound in this department. The hull and decks are solid GRP. When you talk of teak overlays, do you mean teak laid decks or the veneers below decks? Teak laid decks will, if original, almost certainly be getting to the end of their lives. I have no information about the longevity of the internal joinery other than that the boat has a good reputation for durability in this department.

Some general information: She was designed by EG van de Stadt in 1967. The Dutch models tend to be called Trintella 1, British boats Trintella 29. She was a popular design found throught European waters. She has a reputaion for being a good seaboat but is not particularly quick in the light stuff. Long keel gives good handling under sail but she is not particularly easy in a tight marina with astern being a bit hit and miss. A number in the UK were fitted out by amateurs from sets of mouldings, and these need to be looked at closely.

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[browndogtripper]

Thanks for the information. My concern is around the teak decks, insofar as they seem to create the opportunity for a lot of water penetration. With a past history of rebuilding a wood boat I can handle changing the decks when their time comes. I want to be sure the glass underneath is sound. I'll assume that since they are solid glass without core the chance for serious rot is decreased or eliminated.

As to the builders, I'm still confused. Where the hulls laid up in Kent by Tyler and sent to Anne Weavers yard? Could you provide more info on the building parnership.
Thanks

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[StephenW]

Hi Andrew - If you go to www.seacracker.org you may get some additional info. The site mainly relates to the Trintella 11a/Seacracker 33 (same Van Der Stadt boat) but also has info on other models and the guy that runs the site may be able to point you in the direction of other sources.

I looked at a 33 about 2 years ago & it seemed a very solid seaworthy boat. The fellow that runs the website (Humperdink) told me about a 29 for sale at the time so he is interested in all types from that designer.

Good luck - we ended up with a Sadler 32 in the end and have been very happy with her - she's proven to be a very strong, seaworthy boat capable of being lived on for some months by a couple (as we did).

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[paulrossall]

I have a short report on the Trintella 29, says a fast passage-maker with an enviable reputation. As James said there were two builders of the boat, in Holland it was Anne Weavers, who I assume both laid up the hull and completed construction.
In the UK Tylers moulded (laid up) lots of different designers boats, including many Van de Statt designs. The hulls were then sent to boatyards to be completed and Offshore Yachts completed many of them. The hull could also be purchased direct from Tylers for home completion, so there will be a few home completed boats. From what James says about numbering system I would assume yours is a Tylers hull, probably completed by Offshore Yachts.
The boats have a excellent reputation in the UK as reguards quality of construction and sailability. Good Luck. Paul

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[Sergeant_Pepper]

Long Keelers Going Astern

I'd agree with almost everything written in the thread, and James Jermain is on the mark 100%.

They're good and can be very fast in the right conditions. As to manoevering astern, they suffer as do many long keelers. The 29 is somewhat different from my Seacracker (Trintella IIb) but many long keeled boats have almost impossible control in astern. Mine included.

For the first year I would back out of my marina slip and do various pirouettes and so forth,. The problem was, I needed to be turning to my starboard in astern, but the prop walk is so strong that the best I could achieve was often a slight turn to my port. Slowing her down enabled me to go straight astern, although I was holding the rudder over to even do this.

So one weekend I thought about the problem. IF prop walk is the cause, then I realised the key was to start by going straight, get some momentum, then put the prop into neutral. Voila. Perfect manoeuvrability every time. Works perfectly. Once she's "turned the corner" then it's into forward and off we go. The hidden advantage is that the prop is already stopped when engaging forward gear, so this is much kinder on the gearbox. As the whole manoeuvre is now also quite silent, it looks like some slick seamanship.

I've tried this on other "impossible" boats and won lots of friends! Try it and let me know.

Just one odd thing: I've not read of this on any of the sailing forums on the web. Surely this can't be an original solution?

Have fun - and don't be afraid of sailing her in a blow. I took my boat for a long sail in 58 knot wind (true wind that is) in March and we had a lovely day sailing!

Regards,

Humperdinck

HJ@seacracker.org

ps. http://www.seacracker.org/article_109.htm - an short article about a '29 sailing in Scotland for three weeks. Makes me want one!



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[charles_reed]

Weavers

Had all their mouldings from Tyler - talk to the Dutch Trintella owners association.

Enormously loyal owners, you'll find them all over the world, frequently on 3/4th round-world trip - Weavers still hold a regular get-together for their fans.

One of the world's classic builders.

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[Oliver_McAuliffe]

Re: Long Keelers Going Astern

Hey this sounds a good idea , I have a Trintella IIB and just after one an a half years renovation its back in the sea here in Perros Guirec , having not sailed it before going astern out of the berth is like a lottery and a hazard to adjacent boats!, I am going to try your metod next week end , I might even look slick for once , thanks

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[halcyon]

If you go to the following site there are details of the Trintella 29, they were built by Offshore yachts.

http://www.oycoa.org.uk/trintell.htm

There are 5 currently owned by association members so they should be able to help with any details.

Brian

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[sailorman]

the English ones were moulded by Tylers of Tonbridge ( Kent) & fitted-out by Offshore Yachts ( Royston Hertfordshire)
i actually fitted- out the Trintella 1 ( 29 ft) from about 1965 > 67.
i was in a team of 3 the 2 others still live in the area.
you might get further info from the "Halcyon" owners club these were other classes of boats built

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[tome]

Re: Long Keelers Going Astern

It used to be a well-known solution for long keel boats, especially with wing engines. Perhaps it's fallen out of favour as people have become accustomed to modern boats?

I still use it regularly and agree that it's a very useful trick.

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[Chris_Robb]

Deck stepped Mast

Do check by looking along the deck externally to make sure there is NO distortion or dropping of the deck. If there is then you must look below. Some boats relied on their bulkheads without a mast compression post. This meant that the bearing surface below the mast was too small and it could compress into the glass/wood block under the mast.


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[Sblaton113]

That's a nice boat. I went up to see it last weekend and was quite impressed. I decided that I wasn't quite ready to jump on it, though. Guess it's not going to wait around for me to get ready!

A fellow on the board here sent me a nice magazine review of the Trintella 29, send me some email and I'll forward it along to you.

Have fun with it!

--Derek


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Hi there, me and my girlfriend are looking at a trintella 29 too, could you also send me the magazine article? Haha

 

[Mr Cassandra]

Hi there, me and my girlfriend are looking at a trintella 29 too, could you also send me the magazine article? Haha

I think its gone moldy as its 14 years old thread

 

[alant]

My wife and I put in an offer on a Trintella 29 in Seattle, WA and are doing our sea trials Friday. I'd appreciate any information you might have on the boat. I'm confused on where it was built and by whom, Anne Weaver or Tyler. I'm also wondering about the deck stepped mast and teak overlays. Are you aware of any problems with either. Are the decks solid glass or are they cored? And the hull? Also, is her handling under power any more difficult than other full keelers? Is there anything else I should know... It is difficult to find any information over here in Washington State.
Andrew

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Some info here http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=3262

 

[Monique]

Wow... a 14 YO dead Lazarus reawakens...

 

[Lightwindshighspeeds]

.. and in the spirit of keeping the thread alive...

Thought I would add a clip of a trintella 29 that had sailed across the Atlantic relatively recently by the name of North Wind by the single hander Shelley.

Any one else out there want to chime in with their experience of maintaining a trintella, would be great to hear from you. Especially as this boat is over 50 years old now.