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I am tired of using the spray can antifouls on my prop and saildrive leg. The orangepeel finish ends up as a pitted surface after a while in the water. Considering using Trilux as it does say it can be used on bronze and for propellors. What the data sheet fails to mention is what primer to use on a bronze substrate. Any useful experience out there?
By the way the prop is not sufficiently pristine to leave as bare polished and I am unconvinced by the suggestion of lanolin coating.
 
The Trilux spray primer will do, but there is really no advantage in using brush on Trilux rather than the spray. Real solution is Velox, but not now available over here and needs serious prep back to bare metal. Pity because it really works.
 
I've used brush on Trilux for 20 years (every three or four years) and never put a primer on. Just works.

Just realised I'm still using the same small tin I bought 17 years ago with the new boat.
 
ctva said:
I've used brush on Trilux for 20 years (every three or four years) and never put a primer on. Just works.

Just realised I'm still using the same small tin I bought 17 years ago with the new boat.
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So is that sometimes to the bare metal aftercleaning off all the old?
 
johnphilip said:
So is that sometimes to the bare metal aftercleaning off all the old?
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I do sand it down smoothish and remove most but do not spend too much effort. Couple of times I have polished to metal then a light abrade to give a key.
 
I have used Primocon outdrive leg and prop for many years.

Works very well with lots of coats of Primocon and Trilux. With easy access, so a coat goes on each time I visit the boat with the same brush wrapped in clingfilm. I find I can get a much thicker coat using a brush rather than aerosols .
 
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I used Jotun's equivalent aerosols - the primer can is almost certainly Vinyguard (their Primocon equivalent). So, as above, I'd also use Primocon (or Vinyguard) as a primer if brushing too. I did our boot top in Trilux a few weeks ago and it went on beautifully over Vinyguard.
 
johnphilip said:
I am tired of using the spray can antifouls on my prop and saildrive leg. The orangepeel finish ends up as a pitted surface after a while in the water. Considering using Trilux as it does say it can be used on bronze and for propellors. What the data sheet fails to mention is what primer to use on a bronze substrate. Any useful experience out there?
By the way the prop is not sufficiently pristine to leave as bare polished and I am unconvinced by the suggestion of lanolin coating.
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Hammerite special metals primer on bronze is an excellent substrate for trilux
 
johnphilip said:
I am tired of using the spray can antifouls on my prop and saildrive leg. The orangepeel finish ends up as a pitted surface after a while in the water. Considering using Trilux as it does say it can be used on bronze and for propellors. What the data sheet fails to mention is what primer to use on a bronze substrate. Any useful experience out there?
By the way the prop is not sufficiently pristine to leave as bare polished and I am unconvinced by the suggestion of lanolin coating.
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Cheaper to wee on it than use trilux and the anti fouling properties are similar. Irrelevant if it sticks or not. It’s useless.

Velox best (of a bad bunch)
 
From memory the active ingredient in Triliux is the same as Velox - except Velox has more of the active ingredient (and is extortionate here in Oz). To me Velox is simply a more concentrated version though both might also have different but key ingredients. Note both products might have a different formulation than accessible to someone in Europe. I used the Velox primer last time we treated the props from scratch and have simply abraded back to Velox or the primer and the last coating was with Trilux. Velox is better but I'm not sure it supports the Australian price and we will stick with Trilux for the future. However - we beach our cat fairly regularly to wipe down, its easier than swimming, and this allows us to keep the props relatively clean for longer (a kitchen 3M type scrubber -like a nylon Brillo pad).

Never used a spray on AF - always brush or roller (brush for the prop).

Most AF perform better with more generous coatings (brush) and regular use. If you can get near some fresh water, river or estuary rather than sea, that also reduces fouling

I agree with Elessar, Post 12.

If you are tempted - I have tried PropSpeed and PropOne (aka Prop Gold) - a silicone coating. They are not difficult to apply but have a meticulous sequence (more so than Velox) - if you do not follow the sequence do not be surprised if you are very disappointed. They last no longer then Velox and can be prone to damage - its like a silicone sealant - 'soft'. The dust on removal is, possibly, carcinogenic. If you use any of these silicone coatings and change your mind you need to grind back to bare metal, clean with acid, burnish with a blow torch etc etc - or the conventional primer will not adhere. And - to discourage you further - they are not cheap and PropSpeed can (or this was the case) only be applied by a professional applicator.

I'm a qualified PropOne applicator :)

Take care, stay safe

Jonathan
 
Neeves said:
From memory the active ingredient in Triliux is the same as Velox - except Velox has more of the active ingredient (and is extortionate here in Oz). To me Velox is simply a more concentrated version though both might also have different but key ingredients. Note both products might have a different formulation than accessible to someone in Europe. I used the Velox primer last time we treated the props from scratch and have simply abraded back to Velox or the primer and the last coating was with Trilux. Velox is better but I'm not sure it supports the Australian price and we will stick with Trilux for the future. However - we beach our cat fairly regularly to wipe down, its easier than swimming, and this allows us to keep the props relatively clean for longer (a kitchen 3M type scrubber -like a nylon Brillo pad).

Never used a spray on AF - always brush or roller (brush for the prop).

Most AF perform better with more generous coatings (brush) and regular use. If you can get near some fresh water, river or estuary rather than sea, that also reduces fouling

I agree with Elessar, Post 12.

If you are tempted - I have tried PropSpeed and PropOne (aka Prop Gold) - a silicone coating. They are not difficult to apply but have a meticulous sequence (more so than Velox) - if you do not follow the sequence do not be surprised if you are very disappointed. They last no longer then Velox and can be prone to damage - its like a silicone sealant - 'soft'. The dust on removal is, possibly, carcinogenic. If you use any of these silicone coatings and change your mind you need to grind back to bare metal, clean with acid, burnish with a blow torch etc etc - or the conventional primer will not adhere. And - to discourage you further - they are not cheap and PropSpeed can (or this was the case) only be applied by a professional applicator.

I'm a qualified PropOne applicator :)

Take care, stay safe

Jonathan
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Velox under £50 in the UK for 500ml. Enough to do my large mobo props, p brackets, bronze rudders and trim tabs. Not expensive at all.

interesting it is the same active ingredient- the effectiveness is chalk and cheese however. You may be right about regional product differences.

I so wish I could dry out and polish my props. I can’t.

I’ve tried silicon products and struggled with adhesion. 480 hp per engine does make a prop blade a harsh environment. But clean props so critical on a mobo.
 
Elessar said:
Velox under £50 in the UK for 500ml. Enough to do my large mobo props, p brackets, bronze rudders and trim tabs. Not expensive at all.

interesting it is the same active ingredient- the effectiveness is chalk and cheese however. You may be right about regional product differences.

I so wish I could dry out and polish my props. I can’t.

I’ve tried silicon products and struggled with adhesion. 480 hp per engine does make a prop blade a harsh environment. But clean props so critical on a mobo.
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Velox costs twice as much here as it does in the UK.

The active ingredient in Velox is Zinc Pyrithione at 13% and the same active ingredient is in Trilux at about 5%. Trilux also contains Cuprous Thiocyanate at 24% (a constituent of most AFs)..

Jonathan
 
Elessar said:
But clean props so critical on a mobo.
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Apart from the loss of pleasure, a big attack on the wallet too.

It seems that all products we use are more like a preventative and not necessarily a solution but doing nothing is not an option. Even a nice polish helps.

Barnacles seem to be the main problem. They are one hard core crustacean .
 
LONG_KEELER said:
Apart from the loss of pleasure, a big attack on the wallet too.

It seems that all products we use are more like a preventative and not necessarily a solution but doing nothing is not an option. Even a nice polish helps.

Barnacles seem to be the main problem. They are one hard core crustacean .
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Forget gorilla glue. Barnacle glue is a product I’d buy!
 
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