Trader rises like a phoenix from the ashes

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According to this month's MBY, the Chappells are up and running again selling Traders to unsuspecting punters. For anyone who doesn't know, Tony Chappell's previous company, Tarquin Boat Company, went into administration last year owing a lot of money to creditors and leaving several customers with part built boats out of pocket and without their boats. Now it seems, a new company called Trader Motor Yachts, apparently owned and run by Tony Chappell's son, Toby, has bought the assets of the Tarquin Boat Company for £440k and is once again marketing Trader boats. This is not the first time Tony Chappell has gone bust and risen like a phoenix from the ashes leaving a trail of unsecured creditors and unhappy boat owners behind him. Apparently, Tony Chappell is not involved with the new Trader Motor Yachts company; yeah right.
The MBY article (more like an advertorial really) left many questions unanswered. For example how was it that, of the £440k paid for the assets of Tarquin Boat Company, £384k went straight back to Tony Chappell himself as a secured creditor? Tarquin Boat Co left more than £1m worth of unsecured creditors; how did a one horse sales company like Tarquin Boat Company manage to run up such huge debts and who were the unlucky creditors?
Then there is the issue of the new Trader Motor Yacht company taking responsibility for completing the 7 unfulfilled orders left by the failed Tarquin Boat Company. MBY presented this as some kind of act of altruististic charity but my guess is that Trader Boat Company only did this for their own benefit. First and most obviously, the Trader brand image would only be further tarnished had they not done this and second, I bet the manufacturing company in Taiwan would have refused to manufacture any more boats for them had they not completed the existing orders. Apart from anything else, the existing orders were profit oppurtunities for the new company.
Oh yes the new company is going to use client accounts in the future and letters of credit as if that is supposed to make punters feel better. We all know that client accounts can easily be manipulated and letters of credit are only as watertight as the terms and conditions written into them.
So there we have it. The Chappells walk away from £1m worth of debts and have a new unencumbered company to do exactly what they were doing before. They've even managed to persuade a couple of gullible owners to invest in the new company; lets hope that's money those owners can afford to lose
 
the smell just doesn't go away does it. With the bancruptcy and the gludy experience combined I doubt any readers here would ever buy a trader again. Unfortunately thet still leaves 99% of the boat buying public queing up to buy what on the face of it still look like good boats.
 
an intriguing website:-

http://www.tradermotoryachts.com/about-frame.html


"Trader is the number one long range motor yacht brand in the UK, with more than 500 vessels sold since the brand was launched in 1976"

I know they don't actually say that they have delivered all 500 of them in the UK...

"all encompassing Trader's market-leading combination of timeless design and cutting-edge engineering"

AFAIR, Gludy had to do a lot of cutting and re-engineering.

And from Companies House:-

Date of Incorporation: 12/06/2009

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7487 - Other business activities
Accounting Reference Date: 30/11
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 12/03/2011
Last Return Made Up To: 12/06/2010
Next Return Due: 10/07/2011

It will be interesting to see the Annual Accounts and who are the company officers. :)
 
Could not understand the publicity IPC is still giving to Trader when they are owed money. In my business if a creditor wants to purchase with his 'new' company (as has happened) they would either have to find a way of paying back what they owed or they would be advised of the proximity of the canal basin and our sideline in concrete boots.
 
...so i wonder how long they will last this time... my bet, 4 years, just time enough to build a few boats, shaft a few customers, shaft even more suppliers and then they will be off.. terrible.... any why are IPC media allowing them any space in there publications...:confused:
 
Didn't Broom do something similar as well, or did the old Broom pay of its creditors before becoming the new one?

I thought broom was still the same company? And yes I think they did pay off creditors.
On to trader, I was also under the understanding that monte fino now sells the sunliner 64 as a monte fino and they also have the 535 and the 575. Does trader just fit out the boats or build them completely?
 
I thought broom was still the same company? And yes I think they did pay off creditors.

Iirc, Broom closed down their boat building division (and made all the staff redundant) but kept the boat yard operating. They then set up a new boatbuilding operation and re-engaged some of their previous staff - I think the objective was to run production on a less ambitious basis and with a clean sheet.

Frankly, I can't believe that the Chappells (whether pere or fils) can possibly get away with this yet again but - as the police have previously mentioned, I think - it's actually very difficult to prosecute people who operate like they do....
 
Iirc, Broom closed down their boat building division (and made all the staff redundant) but kept the boat yard operating. They then set up a new boatbuilding operation and re-engaged some of their previous staff - I think the objective was to run production on a less ambitious basis and with a clean sheet.

Ah. Sounded fishy at the time. Does trader still sell the 64 as monte fino also sells it? Also did trader ever make the 535 and 575 themselves?
 
According to this month's MBY, the Chappells are up and running again selling Traders to unsuspecting punters. For anyone who doesn't know, Tony Chappell's previous company, Tarquin Boat Company, went into administration last year owing a lot of money to creditors and leaving several customers with part built boats out of pocket and without their boats. Now it seems, a new company called Trader Motor Yachts, apparently owned and run by Tony Chappell's son, Toby, has bought the assets of the Tarquin Boat Company for £440k and is once again marketing Trader boats. This is not the first time Tony Chappell has gone bust and risen like a phoenix from the ashes leaving a trail of unsecured creditors and unhappy boat owners behind him. Apparently, Tony Chappell is not involved with the new Trader Motor Yachts company; yeah right.
The MBY article (more like an advertorial really) left many questions unanswered. For example how was it that, of the £440k paid for the assets of Tarquin Boat Company, £384k went straight back to Tony Chappell himself as a secured creditor? Tarquin Boat Co left more than £1m worth of unsecured creditors; how did a one horse sales company like Tarquin Boat Company manage to run up such huge debts and who were the unlucky creditors?
Then there is the issue of the new Trader Motor Yacht company taking responsibility for completing the 7 unfulfilled orders left by the failed Tarquin Boat Company. MBY presented this as some kind of act of altruististic charity but my guess is that Trader Boat Company only did this for their own benefit. First and most obviously, the Trader brand image would only be further tarnished had they not done this and second, I bet the manufacturing company in Taiwan would have refused to manufacture any more boats for them had they not completed the existing orders. Apart from anything else, the existing orders were profit oppurtunities for the new company.
Oh yes the new company is going to use client accounts in the future and letters of credit as if that is supposed to make punters feel better. We all know that client accounts can easily be manipulated and letters of credit are only as watertight as the terms and conditions written into them.
So there we have it. The Chappells walk away from £1m worth of debts and have a new unencumbered company to do exactly what they were doing before. They've even managed to persuade a couple of gullible owners to invest in the new company; lets hope that's money those owners can afford to lose

Great post Deleted User
You certainly have some broad shoulders to be the first one to bring this to every ones attention. I hope people on the forum give you any support that's needed.
Well done
David
 
Unfortunately thet still leaves 99% of the boat buying public queing up to buy what on the face of it still look like good boats.
Well, actually I don't think that 99% of the buyers don't even think to throw 'Chappell' and 'Trader' into Google...
That's all it takes nowadays to become aware of what was debated around here.
 
Ownership

Only one director and shareholder filed at Companies House

TOBY WOODLIFFE CHAPPELL
Appointment Date: 12 Jun 2009
Date of Birth: 05 Dec 1974
Appointment Type: Current Director
Occupation/Function:
Address: FLAT 5 TOWER HOUSE, LONDON ROAD, ARUNDEL, WEST SUSSEX, BN18 9BH
Current Appointments: 1
 
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