Tracing a Gin Palace that slammed us...

Just to set the record straight - I'm a great advocate of harmony between raggies and stinkies. I have friends with power boats and love going out on them.

I was NOT generalising - I was being very specific - this guy was a idiot, and happened to be in a stinkie. Had he been in a sailing yacht my attitude would be exactly the same.

How much is a 53' Sunseeker ? £800,000 ? and how much is a weekend course on how to drive it?

AND - this was actually the second such incident yesterday - earlier another large power boat (about 45') 'anchored' near us and her stern started to rapidly approach us until fenders were required. I politely suggested they were too close (ie the fender barely went in the gap between us!) to which he responded that they weren't moving and we were! Priceless, we were firmly anchored and we could see his chain dropping dead vertical from the bow with no chance of holding.

The only difference was that this time the skipper used his engines and moved off without slamming us.
 
There is always the chance that they weren't aware of hitting your boat. If it was a 'Gin Palace' maybe they were oblivious to it? Especially with the noise of the engines.

In any case it may be worth giving the MCGA a call and parting with £6. MCGA

You never know it may be registered (if it was under 24mtrs)
 
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So, if you you are in the area, are you going to keep your eyes open for MAD MAX?

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And if I see a boat called mad max what exactly do you suggest I do? Chain it to the pontoon???

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I take it that that's a "No" then.

You could have checked for an SSR number, had a look over the boat, talked to the owner or his crew. Maybe you could use even use your initiative.
 
Kev - they were well aware!

There was even a small girl on deck (no life jacket, gusting 30 knots) trying to fend off with her leg - thank goodness one of my crew spotted it and shouted at her to keep her legs clear as she had one right in between the boats and probably would have lost a foot, or had it nastily mangled.

I think the £6 your referring to is now £13 (typical) which we are indeed spending so should get the owner's details within 72 hours.
 
I find it hard to believe that anyone (baring essex car dealers) would knowingly hit another boat and not do something to pass on details, regardless if there was damage or not. I guess the person in charge was just a git.

I do hope you find the culprit, not because you will hopefully claim of his insurance but because he seems to be a git.
 
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I find it hard to believe that anyone (baring essex car dealers) would knowingly hit another boat and not do something to pass on details, regardless if there was damage or not. I guess the person in charge was just a git.

I do hope you find the culprit, not because you will hopefully claim of his insurance but because he seems to be a git.

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Now we're getting somewhere. Well said! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
i'm afraid there may be more gits or car dealers than you imagine, kevB. Out of three accidents i saw in uk last year, twice the cuplrit simply denied all knowledge. Only with loads of witnesses and loads of damage did the offender gives details.
 
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Out of three accidents i saw in uk last year, twice the cuplrit simply denied all knowledge.

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I am genuinely amazed at that. I truly believe (and hope) that ALL the people I know who own boats wouldn't give a second thought to not owning up to hitting another boat.

I suppose it's the same gits who open their doors in car parks and put a nice dent in yours and not leave details?
 
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I am genuinely amazed at that.

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It's not just the hoodies either.
It's got a lot to do with the galmourisation and "celebrity" status of so many shitheads on the dire reality TV shows.
 
If you see Mad Max ....

A casual glance along sides to see if marked might help ... and a PM to the poor sod who had his boat damaged .... about location etc.

For me - sail / power or w.h.y. - what the xxxx does it matter, people who do damage should pay up .....

I've had stanchions loosened, all sorts of bits damaged - but luckily not serious enough to have to hunt out the culprit .... but if it was my boat that suffered what appears to have happened here - I WOULD POST and search for them .....

OK so maybe the bit about power etc. was out of line - but note what happened .... maybe he has a right to feel a bit angry and a bit of 'leeway' in expression ...
 
Can you give some guidance as to why some people whether mobo's or raggies encountered difficulties anchoring?

Was it conditions? Wind? Bad holding on the bottom? Inadequate tackle? or are there just some people who have no idea.

I must confess that I find mooring and anchoring outside Yarmouth an education especially when you find many of the boats pointing different ways indicating whether wind or tide is a bigger influence on that particular boat and when its wind against tide the point at which one is dominate!!
 
See the other post titled Anchoring - Talbot has added some comments there too.

It was choppy, but the mud was excellent holding. Just seemed that some people didn't know what they were doing. We all have to start somewhere ... there is a time and a place for everything, but yesterday wasn't it.
 
it's really a matter of practice like many other boating 'skills'

many would never dream of anchoring in a confined environment if they can avoid it, let alone trying to position their boat within a 40ft box - so when they are required to by an event like Tuesday the nerves are up, they are likely to have 'important guests' etc and it's all a recipe for an incident..........

if you take this particular example you may well have someone trying to reposition, anchor gypsy jams with chain well out, knows he doesn't want to get chain around props but things all get out of hand - possibly drifting into other craft was the best result for his insurers? Suposition I know but we all kow how easy it is for things to escalate 'out of control' - especially when we don't have regular crews on board.

whatever it bad form not to come back to discuss - but again I can understand embarassment, etc etc maybe he had had a couple of beers and was concerned that someone would have called the cops?

I can think of many reasons how it happened and why he didn't hang around - and, if I am really honest, I can see me acting that way in some of them too; but I would like to think I would be trying to find the boat I had hit harder than he was trying to find me.
 
If you were in the Solent or Soton water, for the purposes of the IFR, the entire waterway was under the command of the Queens Harbour Master, Portsmouth.
I would file an official compaint with him and leave him to trace the boat.
 
I really hope you find the [no thanks]. It's reading posts like this I am glad I take to the soft waters of the Menai Straights and that I am not trying to sail/anchor/moor/navigate in what must seem like the M25 on a Friday afternoon.
 
During the IFRand as a raggie who lives in Lee, we were parked in Stokes Bay, next to a 35 ft Mobo, who was minding his own business, when again a Sunseeker parked along side, just by bunging his anchor off the front.. within 3 minutes the "crew" disappeared below deck just as the two boats clashed... luckily the crew of the former boat reacted sufficently quickly to get a couple of fenders bewteen the two boats.
Two raggies had three attempts to anchor close by and both gave up..
Perhaps we all need anchoring courses?
 
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