Towing folkboat?

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May need to do this in a bit[scotland area]
so first thing is i have the relevant licence as passed test years ago! before new regs
but will a transit van type do the job?
whats the weight of boat about 2 tons?
plus twin Axel trailer
?
 
Interesting thread on a forum here asking the same question (not Folkboat)
Seems the 150 is the model to go for. 190 is compromised by it's own weight. Nothing lower than 150.
Six stud hubs is the clue to their capacity (apparently)
 
To find the towing weight of any vehicle,look for the vehicles specification plate which is usually under the bonnet or sometimes inside the cab.Normally ,it will show four weights.Max.front axle weight,Max. rear axle weight,max total vehicle weight and maximum total vehicle and trailer combined weight.All these weights are for the vehicle in a LOADED state and none of the four individually must be exceeded.Max.vehicle weight is often referred to as GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) and max.weight combined with loaded trailer is GTW (Gross Train Weight).In theory,if you take GTW - GVW,you arrive at the total max.weight for your trailer with its load.Remember,however,that trailers too have maximum design weights too,so look also for your spec.plate on your trailer.Also be aware that trailers may or may not have a braking system of their own which again alters their potential weight carrying ability.In summary,If the plate on the Transit were to say GVW 3500kgs and GTW 5000Kgs,then max.loaded trailer weight which should be towed must not weigh over 1500kgs.Hope this is helpful,John.P.S.Also check that towbar fitted is designed for desired weight to be towed !!!

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Towing_weight_of_a_ford_transit#ixzz1uCwhPfiQ
 
To find the towing weight of any vehicle,look for the vehicles specification plate which is usually under the bonnet or sometimes inside the cab.Normally ,it will show four weights.Max.front axle weight,Max. rear axle weight,max total vehicle weight and maximum total vehicle and trailer combined weight.All these weights are for the vehicle in a LOADED state and none of the four individually must be exceeded.Max.vehicle weight is often referred to as GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) and max.weight combined with loaded trailer is GTW (Gross Train Weight).In theory,if you take GTW - GVW,you arrive at the total max.weight for your trailer with its load.Remember,however,that trailers too have maximum design weights too,so look also for your spec.plate on your trailer.Also be aware that trailers may or may not have a braking system of their own which again alters their potential weight carrying ability.In summary,If the plate on the Transit were to say GVW 3500kgs and GTW 5000Kgs,then max.loaded trailer weight which should be towed must not weigh over 1500kgs.Hope this is helpful,John.P.S.Also check that towbar fitted is designed for desired weight to be towed !!!

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Towing_weight_of_a_ford_transit#ixzz1uCwhPfiQ


Nope, Gross Train weight minus truck in running order (Kerbside Weight)

No load in van more trailer weight 85% is a reccomendation not a rule.
 
This might be slightly pedantic, but "Mass In Running Order" isn't quite "Kerbweight". The formr is an EC-standard term and includes a 75kg driver and a 90% full tank of fuel. "Kerb" weight seems to have various meanings but seems to be generally taken to be the empty vehicle with no fuel or driver but in all other respects ready to run.
 
Isnt it all very complicated!
so i presume a landrover or discovery or such like has no problem atall doing this job?
 
This might be slightly pedantic, but "Mass In Running Order" isn't quite "Kerbweight". The formr is an EC-standard term and includes a 75kg driver and a 90% full tank of fuel. "Kerb" weight seems to have various meanings but seems to be generally taken to be the empty vehicle with no fuel or driver but in all other respects ready to run.

Never the less a considerable difference between the equations, probably in some cases, 1.25 tonne more, i.e. 2.75t against 1.5t A big LDV has a greater load capacity than a transit, nearly 0.25t on the 3.5t version
 
My experience

Needed to tow my Folkboat from Norther Germany to Med, finally found a professional with biggest Discovery for the 1800 trek - he had a hard time... Needed to move the boat at the yard so I hooked it up to my Freelander. An automatic she pulled it but without hydraulic suspension control to offset the weight on the back axel a dangerous ride to go any further (a manual would burn the clutch out as well). Here is a pic of the rig https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4GOMDzQOlWLgFvUYoD5ZD3sip9tagWmBKnzsD1vbPQw?feat=directlink
 
Hired this guy to tow my Folksong for me. Boat 2.250KG, trailer 1000KG + rigging, anchor etc brought it to just under 3500KG. The following year he towed it from Chichester to Scotland when I sold it! You need something that can legally pull 3500KG.

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Bought my own new Defender last year and am now pulling this Drifter about which only weighs 1000KG and trailer is a tad over 1000KG so around 2250KG all in.

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When I investigated this for Amulet (completely illegal) I seem to recall that it was not just the towing capacity of the vehicle that was an issue. There was also a limit on the weight that can be towed without an active braking system on the trailer - air brakes. I think there was some threshhold at tree tons, but I can't remember. My conclusion was that Amulet plus any sensible trailer would easily exceed the limit.

Apologies for the patchy memory, but it might stimulate input from someone who knows more than me.
 
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