Top 200 Classic Boats

[absit_omen]

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Re Jester, I think she does deserve a separate listing as a unique and highly unusual yacht.

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But she is stll a folkboat. A highly modified folkboat. modified for a purpose and very successful in achieving that purpose.

Of course Jester should be acknowledged - but for what she has done rather than what she is, and not on any list which includes the folkboat. Without the classic folkboat there would be no Jester.

Otherwise, where do you draw the line? If we include, for example the Lyle Hess BCC do we then include Taleisin as a separate entry? If we include the Corribee, do we also include Iduna?

I can just about accept One Offs in this list but not modified versions of a design. I am not for a moment denigrating Jester, just the criteria.

 

[dombuckley]

One thing I noticed when the list originally came out, was the complete absence of square riggers: surely there is a place (and support) for some, such as Royalist:

and I think Stad Amsterdam would take some beating:

 

[Roach1948]

Surprised that there are so few yachts with lengendary voyages to them:

DUSMARIE (converted Colchester smack)- now on the Deben but famous for her adventures in Lapland.

TRANSCUR - again a restored smack.

SHEILA II (Albert Strange Yawl) - very eventful vogage to New Zealand via the Suez Canal. Her younger sister Sheila should be included to as I believe she is the oldest Strange surviving today and sails enginless out of the Deben.

EMANUEL - Commander Graham's yacht where he was the first small yacht to sail the Atlantic East to West by the Northern Route.

Then we need more Dallimore's in there ofcouse. One would imagine I would go for Roach, but really TARANA is the one that should be added. She was built by Coles of Hammersmith in 1912 and recently restored at Gweek Quay and exhibited on the Classic Boat Stand at LIBS three years ago! She is the perfect example of Dallimore's experimentation with flush decks which led to later raised topside designs such as Roach and Athena, well before the likes of Blackwater Sloops, Rossiters and Deben 4 tonners.

BLUE TROUT should also be added. Holds the record for the largest wooden yacht to be built in Burnham to this day, and if I am not mistaken, the first staysail schooner to be built in this country. Deserves to be in there before Adela and any American import.

 

[Roach1948]

PS. At least one of Hiscocks Wanderer's should be in there too. I would go for Wanderer II as she was designed to do extactly what it says on the tin; a RTW voyage.

 

[Judders]

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How was Guide me when your family owned her?

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Stub masts, small wheel house and a big engine I'm afraid.

The history of her ownership is somewhat sketchy due to the nature of the way in which my Grandfather ran (or rather didn't) his business affairs.

It is ironic, the sence of ownership that my mother feels for the boat when you consider what the current owners have acheived.

Mum actually asked me on Sunday whether we should buy her but I am pretty confident she is not for sale.

 

[KenMcCulloch]

I think when you speak of 'criteria' you are seeking a degree of rationality for the inclusion of vessels on this list, or otherwise, that is simply not there. And why should it be?

 

[absit_omen]

Fine. In that case we should have a list of 'The Top Million Classic Boats'.

If you want to compile such a relatively short list of 200 surely we need to have more definitive criteria - Classic Classes, Classic Designs, Classic Racers, Classic Achievements, Classic Celbrity Owners - or whatever.

 

[SunyBay]

Am I right in not seeing a single GL Watson design there? He must be one of the most under-represented, least thought-of designers out there, and he designed everything from a royal yacht (who's racing record I believe is still yet to be beat) to lifeboats to round the world cruisers to large motoryachts.

Such a shame.

 

[prettyjazs]

<span style="colorurple"> i like this boat too adela right its pretty simple yet gorgeous i love the design it will really be romantic riding on that boat with the one you love </span>