Top 200 Classic Boats

I don't understand this list.

Is it supposed to be individual boats, individual designs, examples of individual boats within a design, working boats, pleasure boats or what?

For example why have 'Folkboat Design' and then list 'Jester' -Jester is a folkboat.

Why has Vertue XXXV been selected above all others? Many would argue that V1 Andrillot should represent the Class.

Some would argue that, in terms of build quality and classic longevity, the all teak Vertues from Cheoy Lee deserve mention.

And where is the Atalanta? A wonderful example of thinking outside the box if ever there was one.

Just my thoughts.
 
When we originally put this list together we recognised that people were sending in names of boats that might be types. And that would mean that we could have had any number of Vertues, say, when really we only needed one. So to be pragmatic we decided that we would take names and types and if one name was voted higher than others we would include her. Thus Vertue XXXV is listed - because she received more votes than any other Vertue.
We made this list democratic and of course good people like yourself can see holes in it straight away; but then again we found that most of our critics hadn't bothered to vote for anything themselves.
The truth about our list is that many of the successful boats had fans who rather obviously had a good deal of influence at the Yacht Club bar, and got cracking with the (mostly) online response.
Cheoy Lee Vertues definitely deserve a mention and I have to agree that the reverse sheer perversity of the Atalanta must endear in some circles.
Might I suggest that as a mother-mud-wrestler (gulp!) you galvanise some support for your favourite designs and get them into our listings for the next 50 classics?

Dan Houston, Editor
 
Thanks for that.

I am very happy to do the next list, in fact I shall start now...........

erm,

1. Vertue 119 Chinita
2. Vertue 1 Andrillot
3. Vertue 2 Sally
4. Vertue 3 Monie

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I'm going for Adela

I'm going for Little Ship

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Beauty in the eye and all that!

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Tom

PS Fairy Huntsman really!
 
Dan

Good to see Wind Song squeezing onto the bottom of the list! /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
Bad to see you are still using the wrong photo of her!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

It has appeared before when mentioning WS so it would be good if you could re-label it in your archive. I guess it is an MG but not his first built.

I can find you an up-to date current photo sailing or an older pic on her mooring if you would like one.

Max
 
"I have to agree that the reverse sheer perversity of the Atalanta must endear in some circles."


There is a bit more to the Atalanta than that (and it does not have reverse sheer !)
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How about; twin, ballasted lifting keels; Hot moulded veneers of wood produce shape and structural support ; All mast, shroud and keel stresses taken on one (sloping) bulhead: etc.
You might find 5 minutes spent reading up on them rewarding.
ken
 
My favourite would have to be Stormy Weather - she is simply poetry in motion, and an absolute joy to sail on.
In fact all of the Sparkman and Stephens designs in your list are gorgeous...... and all of the others as well..... I am enjoying perusing them.....
 
Mystery II of Meon is a super yacht and extremely well maintained. The skipper is also a good hand and offers assistance whenever and wherever needed. Tim Wood is the son of the owner and can sail her well too.
I would like to add Bosun of Forth, 1962 designed by Robert Clark. She is mine and great. She is also a good example of the designs of Robert Clark who is underrepresented in the list.
 
Scrolling through the album in a hurry, looking to see if my Grandfather's boat was in there, it made me realise how samey so many of these boats are. The AWBs of their day. Far more beautiful but there is far too little variety in my view. All beautiful, but as someone else said, where are the daring advances? Where is the Atalnta?

*nb The boat I was looking for, the Guide Me, was there. She was not quite so pretty when she was in my family though.
 
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'cos I squeezed her out!
 
Delighted to see Folkboats up there at no 40 alongside a couple of Fifes. Re Jester, I think she does deserve a separate listing as a unique and highly unusual yacht.

I also agree with m'learned friends above regarding the under-representation of Robert Clark designs.
 
I thought the same thing when looking through, a lot were very similar and in fact there were very few of the everyman type boats in this listing. What happened to the ordinary little cruisers that have probably got more people physically out on the water, the Debutante (having just been reminded of that class), Eventide, mass produced small hillyards (6 and 9 ton) all the 'Yachting World' derived designs, Dauntless and all those small Buchanans. Where are they, or are they simply not beautiful enough? The Atalanta may not be the prettiest but what an advanced concept for its time.
 
Nice to G.U.Laws in there shame Dormy is not mentioned the winner of the first 6mt Olympics in 1908.
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Posibly his most well know is "Chiterbob" the ECOD.
He designed my "Mercia III" winner of the 1924 Tailteann Games in Dublin Bay Hopefully one day soon to return to the water.
Any one with any info on her would be gratefully received .
 
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