JumbleDuck
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Thanks.
Tom Cunliffe talks about the solid fuel stove on his yacht. Anyone have one?
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ryanroberts
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Coal fires are lovely, but keeping 24/7 heat going throughout the winter for a 58' boat needed a lot of it and it's filthy stuff. I suppose the sea can handle ash deposits, but on a canal boat you also need to store the ash until you can get to a bin. The fan heater and leccy blankie I am currently using like the hardened seaman I am are quite the luxury compared to lugging 25kg bags of smokeless (house coal is offensive to neighbours and will destroy your flue and cabin roof quickly) up a soggy towpath in the midlands. Have fat fuel tanks at 200L for a 33', so the Eber would be reasonable too but not worth the wear & tear.
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Electric blankets are very efficient being as they are only trying to heat a tiny space insulated by blankets, would be silly not to have one. I lived aboard an uninsulated 26ft yacht for a year including a very icy winter but with unmetered electricity included in the berth price (haha). An oil filled radiator on 24/7 (sorry greta) did the job but as soon as I turned it off the huge amount of damp became apparent. If you are using a fan heater it would be worth thinking about a desiccant dehumidifier. They heat the air significantly and dry it at the same time. As far as i can tell the only electricity it uses is for heating the air and tiny amount to turn a wheel of dessicant through the blown air. The dehumidifying comes free with the fan heating. I've had good service out of one of these Meaco DD8L Junior Dehumidifier they also provide clean water, not tried drinking it but certainly good for washing up, though I guess if you have electric you're by a hose too.
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dunedin
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As I said, the boat with the stove was "scruffy" when it arrived. I soon discovered that was due to the soot all over everything on his decks, rig and sprayhood - and subsequently all over ours too.
I used the common forum term MAB, which conveyed the general age and type of boat, as thought it would be impolite to name the boat make/model and potentially make the culprit identifiable.
DownWest
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If identifiable, then maybe you would be doing other yachties a service?
Stemar
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As compared with a classic boat = an MAB with a shave and a haircut. My Contessa is a classic, yours is an MAB...'Manky Auld Boat', an older plastic yacht, eg a Contessa 32
sailaboutvic
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I like good old tom great seaman I did met him many years ago , but sorry Tom your video on your lovely stove don't move me at all , my be romantic on flim but not practical.
I once had a Taylor drip heat now that was cosy and warm .
We now have a AC unit that came with the boat, we never used to cold side of the unit but every winter in The Med on wet raining chill days like to day it goes on , dry out the boat nicely , only problem is you do need AC power ,
I once had a Taylor drip heat now that was cosy and warm .
We now have a AC unit that came with the boat, we never used to cold side of the unit but every winter in The Med on wet raining chill days like to day it goes on , dry out the boat nicely , only problem is you do need AC power ,
grandpaboat
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I guess electric is the way ahead in the green world. It's going to take some battery bank and solar array.
AntarcticPilot
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The smallest heater you'd be likely to find useful would be 1kW. 2kW would be better, and most people use more. Where are you going to put a 1+kW array of solar panels? You're looking at around 10 m² of panels. And then storing perhaps 20+kWh of energy (a 100 Ah 12v battery holds 1.2 kWh, and only 0.6 kWh is useable).
Electrical heating away from a mains supply is impractical. The batteries might be feasible if a boat was designed round a massive battery bank, like an EV, but the space for the panels isn't available on the boats we sail.
Stemar
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I agree. I could heat my little boat with 800w on all but the coldest days, but I'd need a 40 footer to fit that many panels on. But wait, I need those 800w in winter, so I'm going to need more like 2KW of panels to run the 800w, 3KW if it's going to run 24/7. How big a boat does that many solar panels need, and how many KW to keep it warm?
Houses can be built to need no heat most of the time, so I suppose a boat could, but that's a lot of space given up to insulation, and a boat tends to have a lot more going in and out through a proportionally bigger entrance. Maybe a big cat that's sailed from inside, but who'd want that in the summer?
Houses can be built to need no heat most of the time, so I suppose a boat could, but that's a lot of space given up to insulation, and a boat tends to have a lot more going in and out through a proportionally bigger entrance. Maybe a big cat that's sailed from inside, but who'd want that in the summer?
Ink
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In the future you will see more sails being constructed with built in solar panels. It won't be unfeasible to have 10m2.
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jamie N
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Ink, any idea of anything coming close to fruition on that?
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The unsinkable sandwich hulled boats are supposed to be effectively insulated by it. Easy to heat in winter and stay cooler longer in the summer. Most yachts have almost zero insulation which has a big influence on what heating system is best. Needs to give a constant steady heat as it will be lost quickly once turned off. Thats a point in favour of webasto/paraffin/diesel automatic style heaters over solid fuel
Kukri
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There might well be serious interest from commercial interest in this if it can be made really robust.
NormanS
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Solar panels won't do much for heating in the winter months, when it's needed, when there's only eight hours of daylight, and even fewer hours of sunshine.
AntarcticPilot
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So you'll be fine as long as the sail is perpendicular to the sun's rays.
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Why not. Maybe not built in panels but made of a material that is photoelectric. There are flexible solar panels. Probably some of the reason making them flexible is a challenge is trying to keep them compact. If remove the need for compactness could open up new possibilities. Could revolutionise getting through the doldrums
Ink
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You want the panels horizontal? You should have said! ?
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AntarcticPilot
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Sounds like you say where heating isn't a problem!
Ink
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Have an Eberspacher that gives out more smoke than heat.