Tohatsu 3.5 2 stroke problems

On Mercury top cover off two clips, then undo very tiny screws that attach plastic tips to the throttle and choke levers. Find dropped screws.

Then undo two long screws that hold control panel plate on. Pull off plate, having to slightly bend starter cord holder to do so. Leave connected by stop button wire and dangle down side of engine.

Now undo clip that holds on fuel pipe to carb and pull off fuel pipe. Don't lose little wire clip. Test fuel flow is good by opening fuel tap with jamjar under pipe. If dubious look at the filter mounted in the top of the tap inside the fuel tank.

Carb removes after undoing one clamp bolt. Pull and twist backwards till whole carb comes off. There is a small rubber O-ring that may drop out - pick it up from the floor.

Carb dissasembly now fairly obvious. Undo knurled top of slider and remove slide cylinder and main needle. No need to remove needle itself, just clean very thoroughly. Then clean again even more thoroughly. Undo two screws and remove float bowl. Clean bowl and plastic float. Usually some corrosion and fine grit in there - the nasty ethanol in modern fuel rots the alloy.

Last two jobs: clean the jet hole - some people poke a thin wire through but I prefer just to spray carb cleaner through and blow. Then carefully remove the pin that holds in the brass float valve spring and remove the spring and the little nail-shaped valve. Clean valve pointy end very thoroughly and spray carb cleaner down hole it came out of, blow clean.

Reassemble float valve and the rest of the carb. Put carb back onto inlet tube, not forgetting rubber O-ring.

Test engine before further reassembling. If not running properly repeat carb cleaning.

Problems with these engines are almost always carb or fuel, rarely plugs. I think my 14 year old much used Mercury is on it's fourth plug, probably its 20th plus carb cleaning. You problem COULD be ignition-related, but far less likely. I bought the Tohatsu version as a spare just before they switched to only selling four-strokes.
 
Plug breaking down when hot.

I've had this in outboards, old 2-stroke motorcycles, mowers and a pressure washer. An absolute menace especially as these days there are so many different sizes and ratings of plugs.

When you are replacing the plug, don't buy one, buy two. That way the first plug won't start shorting across the insulator.
 
Greeny many thanks this looks like it might be just the thing for me to start with. The cleaning the carb part is easy having had some car experience on carbs but have zero outboard knowledge. Having had it serviced by outboard co a couple of years ago not prepared to waste more on that route so DIY is only option now
If you can get it to Steve66, he'll sort it for you.
 
The recommended fuel mix is 50:1 ( 25: 1 during the break in period)

( The same for Mercury according to the on line owners manuals)

The best mix for most 100: 1 motors is also 50:1 It is usually specified when used commercially.

i quoted 100:1 because that is what was recommended to me by Robin Curnow (specialists in Falmouth) and the engine actually had a 100:1 sticker on the tank. The newer 2 strokes were apparently recommended to be run on this fuel mix due to the fact that the newer oils were far better than when the manuals were written.
I checked with them again and they now say 50:1 because of the age of these engines now and the probable need for better lubrication on a part worn engine.

Apologise if I caused confusion!
 
i quoted 100:1 because that is what was recommended to me by Robin Curnow (specialists in Falmouth) and the engine actually had a 100:1 sticker on the tank. The newer 2 strokes were apparently recommended to be run on this fuel mix due to the fact that the newer oils were far better than when the manuals were written.
I checked with them again and they now say 50:1 because of the age of these engines now and the probable need for better lubrication on a part worn engine.

Apologise if I caused confusion!

100:1 became fashionable in the 1980s. In 1985 all premixed Johnson and Evinrude outboards were labelled and sold as 100:1 but about three years later following large numbers of warranty claims they had a complete change of heart recommending a return to 50:1 for all their premix engines. It is said that this, combined with the troubles they had with the early VRO engines, nearly bankrupted OMC.

The trouble with the 100:1 mix seems to be two fold. Insufficient lubrication for engines run hard and insufficient oil remaining in the insides to protect them during winter layup.
 
On Mercury top cover off two clips, then undo very tiny screws that attach plastic tips to the throttle and choke levers. Find dropped screws.

Then undo two long screws that hold control panel plate on. Pull off plate, having to slightly bend starter cord holder to do so. Leave connected by stop button wire and dangle down side of engine.

Now undo clip that holds on fuel pipe to carb and pull off fuel pipe. Don't lose little wire clip. Test fuel flow is good by opening fuel tap with jamjar under pipe. If dubious look at the filter mounted in the top of the tap inside the fuel tank.

Carb removes after undoing one clamp bolt. Pull and twist backwards till whole carb comes off. There is a small rubber O-ring that may drop out - pick it up from the floor.

Carb dissasembly now fairly obvious. Undo knurled top of slider and remove slide cylinder and main needle. No need to remove needle itself, just clean very thoroughly. Then clean again even more thoroughly. Undo two screws and remove float bowl. Clean bowl and plastic float. Usually some corrosion and fine grit in there - the nasty ethanol in modern fuel rots the alloy.

Last two jobs: clean the jet hole - some people poke a thin wire through but I prefer just to spray carb cleaner through and blow. Then carefully remove the pin that holds in the brass float valve spring and remove the spring and the little nail-shaped valve. Clean valve pointy end very thoroughly and spray carb cleaner down hole it came out of, blow clean.

Reassemble float valve and the rest of the carb. Put carb back onto inlet tube, not forgetting rubber O-ring.

Test engine before further reassembling. If not running properly repeat carb cleaning.

Problems with these engines are almost always carb or fuel, rarely plugs. I think my 14 year old much used Mercury is on it's fourth plug, probably its 20th plus carb cleaning. You problem COULD be ignition-related, but far less likely. I bought the Tohatsu version as a spare just before they switched to only selling four-strokes.
 
Many thanks to all for advice. Please to report carb removed and cleaned etc based on jwilson advice but transpired it was a compression issue so just wanted to say many thanks to Simon and Emsworth outboards who helped me out at short notice and worth tracking down if on south coast and needing OB help. No connection etc but just wanted to say many thanks .
 
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