Time for another Bav. thread; already

doug748 said:
I have just examined Snook's link.

I don't mind stark, utilitarian, or minimal but I would draw the line at sitting in an Argos wardrobe.
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Woh - don't misquote me ... I said the plastic veneer looks tacky and I didn't know if Bav had followed Jen/ben along this line - looking at the 32 from Snooks it doesn't seem so ... Bav seem to be sticking to their Plywood/Veneer rather than chipboard/plastic - a MAJOR plus point for me.

Whilst the 32 isn't to my taste I wouldn't class it as tacky or even Argos wardrobe - granted it is 'cheap' finish - but it looks like real wood rather than shavings.
 
Thanks Snooks, close up and in the context of modern designs it is not so bad. My new 2009 dream yacht the Bestewind 50 uses similar interior design themes.

I don't know why many people consider wall to wall to floor varnished teak veneer proper and traditional? Painted planks on the walls are more traditional and I can see some on the new Bav 32.

However the two hard corners (chart table and galley bulkhead) are criminal design oversights and they make me wonder what other design stupidity is lurking within the Bav 32.
 
galadriel said:
I dont think it is as straight forward as freeboard alone, the Bav will have a damned sight more freeboard than the Etap, that is for sure, but the Bav has a lower Stix than the CO32. I'm sorry I do not know all the answers when it comes to Stix measurements, but I am as equally surprised as I suspect you are that a boat with a BR of 48% has a Stix of 32, sort of contradictory.
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Ballast ratio is nonsense in the way it is stated above. Imagine a boat with a 4 tonne hull and 2 tonnes of encapsulated ballast - ratio 50%. But if the ballast is on average 2 foot below the centre of boyancy of the hull ( as it might be in an old long keeler) the righting lever is 4 foot tonnes.

Same boat with a one tonne torpedo keel some 4 foot below the centre of boyancy ( as it could be in a modern Elan for example) - same righting moment but half the ballast ratio at 25%

And both these numbers exclude the righting effect of hull shape. So what you need to look for is the stability curve and in particluar the left hand axis and data. What is the max righting moment of a design which is often stated for easy comparison as a length. For the Contessa it is 0.7m at 78deg and for the old Bav 32 it is 0.77m at 53 deg ie the Bav is stiffer but gets to its max earlier and needs reefing earlier.

Anyway I'm in danger of going off on a technical tangent here so I'll finish.

P.S. If STIX puzzles you have a look at boat design forum
 
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Bosun Higgs said:
Ballast ratio is nonsense in the way it is stated above. Imagine a boat with a 4 tonne hull and 2 tonnes of encapsulated ballast - ratio 50%. But if the ballast is on average 2 foot below the centre of boyancy of the hull ( as it might be in an old long keeler) the righting lever is 4 foot tonnes.

Same boat with a one tonne torpedo keel some 4 foot below the centre of boyancy ( as it could be in a modern Elan for example) - same righting moment but half the ballast ratio at 25%

And both these numbers exclude the righting effect of hull shape. So what you need to look for is the stability curve and in particluar the left hand axis and data. What is the max righting moment of a design which is often stated for easy comparison as a length. For the Contessa it is 0.7m at 78deg and for the old Bav 32 it is 0.77m at 53 deg ie the Bav is stiffer but gets to its max earlier and needs reefing earlier.

Anyway I'm in danger of going off on a technical tangent here so I'll finish.

P.S. If STIX puzzles you have a look at boat design forum
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Dont disagree with you one bit, my post was in reply to someone who suggested (as I understood) that the free board was the biggest contributing factor to a higher Stix. And yes I have visited the web site you suggest, gets to be like talking to a solicitor after a while, you need one to explain what it all means!
 
galadriel said:
Dont disagree with you one bit, my post was in reply to someone who suggested (as I understood) that the free board was the biggest contributing factor to a higher Stix.
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And what I actually said was:

"It seems to me that downflooding angle (as it manifests itself in the Stix calculation) may discriminate (ie unfairly, sic) in favour of lightly ballasted, beamy, deep hulled vessels to the detriment of more traditional designs. "

So there we are, we are all right, maybe.
 
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It looks like a smaller vertion of mine. It is very easy to keep clean and after you have been inside for three weeks or so on a long passage , the fact that its bright keep you happy.
Looking at the pic going around made me feel seasick very odd


lynne
 
lynne said:
I will tell you that we have done over 9000 miles in the 5 months since we bought her and NOTHING has broken or fell off (YET)
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My Bavaria has not been back to the Agent in 5 years for anything but loads of things have broken in 5 years:

Um, um, oh yes the rubber cap on the throttle lever neutral plunger needed to be re glued in position.

A rubber value in the toilet pump developed a wonky shape after a few months of inactivity.

I am sure there was something else... I'll edit this post if I remember.
 
pandroid said:
It 'looks' like real wood alright. Unfortunately for Bav, the real wood has all been used up. Its here
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I must admit that is very nice, but would it beat a Contessa?

Now if you were to tell me that the seats to the port side of the saloon were in fact his and her heads then as far as I am concerned the Contessa would be well and truly whipped.
 
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