Tidy Mooring: an important issue

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Re: Most important Boat names to be on each warp.

With any luck Kim will pull this soon... in the meantime

Repribates Yachting Ascociation..

Perhaps we could issue credit cards and, and,,,,,

Oh and Twister Ken we've noted your post and we'll be along to check your qualifications and check the Bembridge elastic..

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Re: Most important Boat names to be on each warp.

damn .. i meant Money For Old Grope Yachting Association ...

have you invited royalty to head up this association? i've heard one likes a few hairy arsed matelots ... and t'other might be into hemp ... i'm sure you can be accomodating, here?


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"We all know that the warps should be 4 in number. "

If you're doing it properly shouldn't that be "six in number"? (i.e. the breast ropes as well) Or is it just that you want to encourage sloppy practice?/forums/images/icons/smile.gif /forums/images/icons/smile.gif /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Not quite...

What about the power cable? It's usefully arrested my departure on a number of occasions.

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Re: Not quite...

You're right of course.

Now if we made the power cable into three separate lines, (the live warp, the neutral warp and the earth warp) we'ld be getting it up to 9 lines in total.

I'm sure that somebody will be able to get it up to 10!

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I dont see the point of this. Why involve the staff at the marina? Surely a camera system could be installed, and invoices (sorry, fines) sent out automatically?

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Re: Not quite...

I think you'll find that a number of motorboats already have this arrangement, and for some reason the skipper never seems to relax until he's run these ashore using up all the available power cleats on the pontoon.

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You are all too late - FAR too late! Brussels has already got this one tied up with a series of new directives and the new legislation will be coming in from April 1st. Can't exactly quote chapter and verse but the new directives govern the size, material and lay of ropes to be used for various pleasure craft, and what knots are permissible to be used according to the design of the boat concerned.

Pre-set spliced moorings designed to be left in place while the vessel is away from its berth will be subject to special regulations. which requires the splices to made up only by riggers specifically qualified for the job and appointed by the DTI. A splicing certificate will be required for each rope, which must be kept on board at all times the boat is on its berth.

The rope itself must be of approved quality and manufacture with a tested breaking strain, duly certified (certificates to be displayed on starboard quarter of all vessels), and must be replaced after 500 hours use. An up to date record of mooring rope inspection (every 100 hours in winter) must be kept on the boat and available for inspection by HMCustoms at all times. HMCustoms will issue a 'Notice of Inspection', and owners will be required to present their mooring certificates to the nearest Police Station within 6 hours of the time of issue.

Moorings may only be secured or released in the presence of a duly qualified person under the legislation, who must be present to supervise the operation. A qualified person is one who holds at least a JG3 certification* or higher in ropes and knot work, (this is a new section of the RYA Yachtmaster Syllabus, and it will be mandatory for all existing Yachtmasters to undertake this addendum or their qualification will be lapsed)

Further directives are being prepared concerning the size, shape, and type of mooring cleats to be fitted to vessels, their precise location, and the dockside installation's fastening points.

Finally the directive requires that a full risk assesment is to be made and lodged with the DTI for all permanent moorings. These will be subject to periodic checks, at a maximum of six monthly intervals, payment for which will be the responsibility of the boat owner.

Any and every case of a vessel going adrift from moorinags whether from an alongside, fore and aft or swinging mooring, will be investigated by the Police and action may be taken against the owner of any craft found not to have complied in full with the regulations.

HMCustoms are reported to have ordered a new fleet of specially designed RIBs and to be training hit squad crews of 'Mooring Marshalls' who will be undertaking mooring checks at moorings and marinas throughout the country, both coastal and inland. It has not yet been decided whther or not they will be armed, as the Harbourmasters union has objected to the presence of armed officials in certain SSSIs.


*Jimmy Green certification courses will be available at most RYA sailing schools this spring, and consist of a 10 day residential course, with a 4 hour qualification practical at the end, together with written tests and coursework assesment.


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You forgot to mention the Mooring Plan which we will be required to prepare and submit (with copies of all the Certificates) to the Harbour Master three days before we arrive.

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Re: Having being advised

to "get knotted" on many occasions and owning a beard I feel qualified to comment.

It's obvious that an organization is required as this serious matter is being ignored.

Clearly most of the problems you outline are as a result of PPCS (Poorly Position Cleat Syndrome). It's easy comfuse this with either WTSS (Warps To Short Sydrome) or even the much more serious BIWPS (Boat In Wrong Position Syndrome) Clearly guidence is needed.

I also suspect that marina operators move cleats while innocent boaties are out for the day.

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Why learn ?

Cause the man got a new boat - bigger than most and now he wants to do it 'properly' and not like the rest of us plebs !!

I shall figure 8 my lines wherever and whenever I choose. I shall laugh in the face of Beaurocratic Morosity, I shall continue to fly my Red Duster - with seagull goo all over it - and fill up with Red Diesel - that I have invested in a road tanker to fill up ready for when it stops !!!
I laugh in the face of the EU .....


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Recidivist mooring test

Is it where you left it when you parked it last weekend?

If yes, it was efficiently moored.

If no, someone must have undone your lines.

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A Passage Plan is definitely not good

It may give the impression to some that we actually know what we are doing !!!


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<<Can't exactly quote chapter and verse but the new directives govern the size, material and lay of ropes to be used for various pleasure craft, and what knots are permissible to be used according to the design of the boat concerned.>>

I believe the reference is Overnight Landing Directive : Fixed Attachment & Restraining Technique otherwise known as OLD FART.

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lines should not be secured to pontoons, but doubled and brought aboard, so in ann emergecy the boat can be released from the pontoon onboard. if the lines are passed though the cleats, also stops dickheads undoing them.

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ISM

Interminable Silly Moorings Code, which will fit nicely with the

STCW (System of Terminally Corrupting Watchkeepers) Code

and the

ISPS (Intentionally Stupid Prattle about Security) Code

all of which should be taken with the

Ineffably Stupid Organisation codes 9000 and 14000.

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