Tidy Mooring: an important issue

[iangrant]

I've seen some very bad examples of boats being tied up using criss crossed ropes on the pontoon cleats.

We all know that the warps should be 4 in number.
Bow, Stern and two springs tied neatly to the cleats with a round turn and two haf hitches, spare ends neatly coiled on the boat end.

I've seen fasionable black and blue ropes which are a complete disgrace and easy to fall over in the dark, ropes in a silly table mat coil on the jetty, the wrong type of rope used, it must be stopped.

I for one will be campaining at all marinas on the south coast for some legislation to outlaw this sloppy practice.
One suggestion to MDL is that on the spot fines be issued by the marina staff and warps confiscated..
I think a license should be required for tying up boats, there just isn't enough control you know..

Ian

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[tcm]

Re: snig (nm)

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[jimi]

I too have been a victim of this uncouth and barbaric practice. One windy evening(beans, onion bhajis, pork steak and guiness for lunch) I was running to the bog when one jumped up and triped me up ... I fell quickly at a rate of knots due to the warp factor. Unfortunately in the process my stern gear became fouled which caused no end of problems, fortunately a deck brush attached to a boat hook helped matters. I for one would support legislation and additional taxation to stop this happening again.

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[ParaHandy]

heinous crime, despicable, requires rectification immediately ....

perhaps add "the practice of rope whipping or other acts of flagellation is deemed unlawful ... punishment etc etc"

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[iangrant]

I must say, I am dismayed, disappointed and very upset by the obvious carefree disregard for this important topic for open debate presented to the forum.

This Mooring up is the very basis from whereupon we set out on voyages and is a serious matter, in this day and age we must have discipline, licensing and due regard for health and safety, indeed the thin edge of the wedge, my next posting will include a risk assessment for the release of knots under tension as a very basic start to the new EU and UK Government regulations.

Ultimately a full passage plan will be soon be required for all delivery trips, or rowing expeditions across Petersfield Lake, (to include Government forms), cooking qualifications, CE marking, sail cloth thickness and suitability, clothing, (top layer and underclothes). I won’t complete the list now as I’m in discussions with various departments and consultants.


Ian


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[jimi]

A full passage plan is undoubtedly a bad thing (see my previous post).

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[Twister_Ken]

>A full passage plan is undoubtedly a bad thing<

Not, surely, if you have a full passage?

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[ParaHandy]

quite outrageous, agreed ...

to be included in your regulatory foray should be a mandatory tacograph such that EU requirement of 8 hrs on, 16 off can be enforced ... thus enshrining in law what many of us have witnessed and have brought to the attention of the authorities examples of extended "nodding off" but without your tireless efforts, this scurrilous behaviour which is noticeably on the increase, would continue to do so without your tireless efforts ...

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[Talbot]

A granny knot was good enough for my granny , so why am I supposed to learn all these complex knotty things?

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[ParaHandy]

ummm .. yes, if you can find it? ....

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[jimi]

When I went across the NW passage in my Magreggor 26 yesterday, I had a passage plan,but the passage itself was full (of ice) ... was this a good thing?

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[iangrant]

This is the typical apathetic attitude that can do nothing but lead to the knot Police being deployed all around the coast, with appropriate fines..

Granny 10 Euros
Outside Tail (American) Bowline - 20 Euros
Black Rope automatic 50 euro whatever the knot
Coiled up like a beer mat, Confiscation and a 100 euro fine.

All proceeds to my mad as a hatter rest home..

Ian



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[paulrossall]

Most important Boat names to be on each warp.

It is vital that leagislation be introduced to make boat owners have their boat name on the end of the rope they tie up with. When you get 6 or 7 boats rafted up together with warps passing over coachroofs and through cockpits it gets very difficult to see which rope to untie so you can move on to the next hostelry. How often have you undun some ropes you thought were yours to find some motor boat or even worse a sail boat go drifting down the river whilst you pull the cleats out of your deck and make loads of blue smoke reving your engine and not knowing why you are not moving.
There should also be leagislation about what size rope you should use so if 20 boats raft up outside you the ropes are strong enough. Perhaps local councils should employ wardens who could go round the mooring places and fine boaters who don't do things properly and if they used the local traffic wardens then all the motorists would vote for that wouldn't they??
Boat owners with beards, who are obviously very experienced, should be exempt from all this as they know what they are doing.IMHO

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[iangrant]

Any more about your passage and .... well..



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[bedouin]

I gather the government are proposing a new form of marine warden to police such forms of anti-social behaviour.

In the future all warps used for mooring will have to be certified as suitable for purpose, and rated appropriatedly to displacement of the boat. Each rope will be individually marked with a unique registration number and will be required to be tested annually to ensure that they are fit for purpose - this will be done at government controlled testing centres at a flat fee of £26-50 per warp. Each boat will be required to carry at least 8 warps of appropriate rating.

HMG are also working with the RYA on the syllabus for a new competent mooring course, roughly at the same level as the existing incontinent crew course, and it will be compulsory to each boat to carry at least two people qualified to this level whenever approaching an alongside berth.

This will of course require compulsory annual registration of skippers and crew, at a cost of £97-65 per person.

In order to ensure these regulations are being followed it will be necessary for all pleasure boats to be licenced. This licence will have to be renewed every year and the renewal accompanied with copies of the mooring warp certification for that year plus service records for all mandatory safety equipment. This will be funded by a boat tax that is to be set at £67-80 per metre per year.

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[Twister_Ken]

Oi! You!

Look 'ere sunshine - me an' the lads'll go on tieing up our boats whatever way we like and if you're rat-faced enough to trip over an' go fer a swim, tough. Now pipe down before we cut yer lines and cast yeroff.

Bleedin' toffs!

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[iangrant]

Re: Most important Boat names to be on each warp.

I feel that we are all for one and one for all here, I think I'll start a Yachting Association to represent everyone, there are some very nice offices down Southampton way, we could have a legal section, training, take money off people, set qualifications - ....


Ian

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[jimi]

Hey .. less of the incontinent crew ... I was the kipper!

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[ParaHandy]

Re: Most important Boat names to be on each warp.

you mean the RYA - Rope Yachting Association ...?

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[bedouin]

Kipper? I thought you were a Yachtmonster?

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