Tidal Thames to Teddington.Question to ancient mariners

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Can some of you chaps get your slide rules and abbacus out and just confirm something.
Will be in West India Dock over weekend starting 22nd April and then wish to proceed up to Teddington on the Monday.
The lock only works between 07.00 and 17.00.
On Monday 25 Feb HW at London Bridge is @ 07.49 BST.
HW at Teddington 08.49BST.
So not a hope in hell to cover the 23 odd miles to the lock (at a sensible speed) on the same tide.
Best to hole up somewhere during day and go up on evening tide ?
Richmond will open about 19.00 BST.So could be mooring up above lock at 20.00.
 
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This weekend afternoon run but suspect you mean next weekend with Mon 28th Feb HW London Bridge 1015 Appears you are looking at March tide tables
 
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Assuming that your tide times are correct for which ever date your are planning for you should not have a problem. The earliest lock at Docklands is normally one hour before HW or 0700, whichever is later. If HW is 0749 then you are only losing 11 minutes of the tide.

We have done the trip several times in a boat with a top speed of 6 knots by locking out as early as possible. You will have the tide with you most of the way. Don't forget that you do not need to get to Richmond before the barrier closes unless you cannot affor £5 for the lock!
 
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Assuming that your tide tides are correct for which ever date your are planning for you should not have a problem. The earliest lock at Docklands is normally one hour before HW or 0700, whichever is later. If HW is 0749 then you are only losing 11 minutes of the tide.

We have done the trip several times in a boat with a top speed of 6 knots by locking out as early as possible. You will have the tide with you most of the way. Don't forget that you do not need to get to Richmond before the barrier closes unless you cannot affor £5 for the lock!

Looking hopeful then would really like to get up there without hanging about.
 

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The lock only works between 07.00 and 17.00.

Not quite right...

• Lock operational 08h00 – 17h00 daily, +/- 1hr HW Woolwich (Not West India Dock).
• Booking the lock requires 24hrs notice, by 12h00 Friday for the weekend.
• BW staff must be in possession of a valid insurance and BSC and insurance, at least £2 million 3rd party cover.

I've done West India to Teddington in 1 tide loads of times.
 

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Not quite right...

• Lock operational 08h00 – 17h00 daily, +/- 1hr HW Woolwich (Not West India Dock).
• Booking the lock requires 24hrs notice, by 12h00 Friday for the weekend.
• BW staff must be in possession of a valid insurance and BSC and insurance, at least £2 million 3rd party cover.

I've done West India to Teddington in 1 tide loads of times.

Thanks for that info am coming to dock with about 6/7 boats from Rochester Cruising Club and and aware of prior notice to lock,most boats are staying for the week.
It will depend of course if anybody else is going in/out as do not expect to be locked out with only one boat(me) in chamber .
According to website they will let me out at 07.00 gmt,does not mention if there is a problem being a bank holiday.
Really needed to know if it possible to do it at sensible speeds in order not leave a lot of very annoyed boaters shaking their fists as we go past.
We have been the victim of wash from boats dashing back from St Kats to Teddington,members of Thames clubs who really ought to know better.
 

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Generally speaking, going upstream from a London marina to Teddington is quite easy as the tide is with you. If you can manage 6 knots then you should not have a problem provided that you lock out as early as possible.

It is more difficult going down from Teddington to London. The tide is against you for much of the passage and London is pretty unforgiving if you are too late to lock in.

We generally reckon to use Richmond Lock going downstream and then tiptoe through the shallows below the lock before we can get going. Coming upstream we can normally get through while the barrier is open and do not use the lock.

Even at 6 knots we regularly slow down for rowers who can usually be found most of the way between Richmond and Wandsworth.
 
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"What's your air draught OG? Remember Hammersmith Bridge is a lot lower than the others."

Airdraft is 3.5m.

The PLA site gives airdraft 3.6 MHWS and tide table gives 6.1m half way twixt Spring and neap tides.Should give us .5 of metre at least..


Loads of room
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