This weekends gelcoat

[tcm]

As predicted, this weekend, we're off to the lock again, and the very keeny pushy hurry hurry targa48 "Evening Song" dives under our bows, then circles and follows us in, "i will definitely have some gelcoat from him" i said, and sure enough in he came, bit too fast and a bit too soon, then donked us medium-hardish. I wd say sixty quid to sort it out tops, but he didn't give insurance or any details, and was quite rude about it all. Finally stalks off having "proved" there wasn't any damage by taking a picture with a digicam from 10 yards away....and got into his Bentley, to follow his wife out of the carpark in her Merc coupe.

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1) My observation is that the standard of driving powerboats in the UK is lower than elsewhere in western europe, where there are some exams. It's not the exams - which we all know are fairly easy - it's that there's a bit of a barrier, an official "hang on a minute there sir..." which stops people jollying off, believing that it's "just like driving a car" and learning even the basics on the hoof.

2) In UK, other boats may or may not be insured. In mainland Europe, if you're in a Marina, you present your insurance details or you get out. In the UK, you present the marina fee, that's it. Someone hits you and refuses to accept what happened, now what?

3) Some (but not all) people with nice boats are incredible tightwads. I thought I was bad, jeez, this guy wriggled and argued when everyone heard the contact. I spoke to the marina and it seems (very sadly) that they're gonna sort it out, so "he doesn't get upset again"!

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[gonfishing]

Not having a good week are you Matt??
sorry can;t help with copper problems ,R&R at the moment, not allowed to lift anything heavier than a pint!!!!

Julian

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[KevB]

Go on Matt, tar every motor boater with the same brush. Just cause one hit you don't mean were all bad!!/forums/images/icons/wink.gif

ps. Saw you entering Portsmouth harbour yesterday. Very nice it looked too.

 

[theguvnor]

A 410 or even a 12 gauge just above his waterline would make you feel better!

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[powerskipper]

Were you in shell bay yesterday?, if you were think I took photo of you , its posted on guess where.

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Julie

 

[TomIsitt]

Yeah yeah yeah...ya nouveau riche ******* with yer fancy foreign 20,000 mega-watt dishwashers and yer froggie shorepower adapters and yer precious bloody eyetie gel-coat, coming over 'ere taking our women and our marina berths, upsetting upstanding Brit Bentley drivers, polishing pontoons, and generally carrying on like some smart-arse foreign Johnnie. Pah!

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[andyball]

Not enough fenders !

Not a case of bad driving, lack of insurance, or tight-wadness; but " ...lack of foward thinking and poor seamanship...".
in leaving any part of your hull uncovered by fenders- protect yourself at all times !

"...In future, if you think ahead like this and in other ways too, rather than rely entirely on others ..... then you will be far less likely to have a slash down the side of the boat...."

See ?/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif






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[tcm]

Re: Not enough fenders !

Touché!

Cept that my previous remark related to boats coming alongside in a berth in the normal fashion, perhaps "resting" against another boat (and we were fendered for this.)

But i doubt if any boat is ever quite well fendered enough for another boat to drive into the back of it just anywhere along the rear quarter, as they did.


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[Deleted User YDKXO]

Actually, I'd say the opposite. The vagaries of the UK weather plus having to deal with tides as well probably makes UK boaters better boat handlers than the Med variety. Also the average UK boater is probably using his boat more often so maybe gets more practice at the slow speed stuff
With regard to presenting insurance docs, the process of filling out forms at Med marinas plus presenting every document known to boating man is a total pain in the arse IMHO. It seems to take 30mins every time just to pay an overnight charge. Give me a UK marina anyday, just lob 'em a few quid, get a receipt, job done
Yup, some peeps are tightwads but I guess thats how you get rich in the first place but refusing to pay for damage is very poor form. Suggest you do something totally pointless but satisfying like nicking fender from his boat or unplugging shorepower

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[stellican]

May I suggest that you ask the Lock Control to put your FGM into the lock last to avoid the problems that you are encountering with these people who are relatively new to boating

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[tcm]

Yeah, good idea, i'll reverse in last. That should be fun!

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[Planty]

Can't really comment too much on all your questions but do feel this guys response to his obvious faux pas, relates nicely to a PhilF post the other week. Surely if you bash somebodies boat, car, bike whatever, good manners would dictate that one owned up and took the consequences.

God knows I try hard as hell to avoid everybody but managed in high wind to ding an unattended Azimut 60+ in OV and felt duty bound to search out the owners number, phone him and apologise/offer to repair/reimburse etc. What did he say, "Don't worry about it, have a look at the one the otherside, I did myself!!" .

I suspect if this Guys attitude had been more placatory a similar conversation may have ensued. Paul

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[tcm]

yes, you're right. Two of us guessed incorrectly where the impact would come, and the lady of the boat stood over us shouting "it didn't touch!" when um, it did.



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[tcm]

Re: revenge

um, well there do sem to a load of dings and bashes - more than i've seen anywhere else. But my data is suspect.

I am horrified at your suggestions for revenge. Nicking his fenders and ripping out his shorepower?!! What a dreadful idea! For a start, his poxy fenders are rubbish and don't match mine, and as for the shorepower - it trips out every few hours anyway, so what's the point of doing that? Much better wd be to do something which contributes towards a safer environment for all, such as using the very big lump of chain and padlocking him to the quayside.




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[Deleted User YDKXO]

Re: revenge

In fairness, P Solent is a bit tight and there are three oppurtunities to crash into other boats - holding pontoon, lock and berth - unlike normal marinas. Ocean Village much better for mega boats like yours

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[britemp]

I'm 6'2" and 18 stone - on the Norfolk Broads I find jumping onto the offending boat and punching the pilot to be quite effective. Is this not considered de rigeur solentwise? /forums/images/icons/wink.gif


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[zefender]

Re: Port Solent Pillocks

Coming into my berth over the weekend, saw a Bavaria 36 make a bit of a cock up trying to get into a berth, bows-to, which shouldn't really need a 7 point turn to achieve. As it was on our pontoon, we waited (and waited) for him to complete it and then I reversed and started my 'descent, so to speak. The git had only berthed in my slot!. I explained that he wasn't meant to be there and he shouted back "No, you're wrong, Ancasta, told me to leave it here". I explained that I didn't much care whether the pope had told him to stick it there 'cos it had to be moved. I'd radiod PS to tellem and they were trying to reach him but, natch, he'd turned off his radio. Anyway, eventually all sorted and he reversed out, ripping off the pontoon fender in the process and pranging my neighbour's boat, An Azimut 42. He then repeated the same thing further down the pontoon where he was meant to have berthed. The Azi seemed undamaged though it did have wellie marks all along it where the skippers son had tried to fender off in a non-textbook sort of way. But then the Azimut has only got a single silly fender hanging off so I spose he was asking for probs. And on the way through the lock we got caught a bit by the sudden wind up the transom, causing Mrs Zef to be caught holding both lines betwixt available cleats, holding back 7 tonnes of boat like a circus strongman. I still bear the bruises of the post mortem.



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[Jerbro]

Yes, I observed your GRP man on Monday morning - I asked him how long it would take to polish a beasty like that - he said, "I'm not polishing it today, he bumped the lock and it just needs touching up" - pointing to a rather small 'abrasion' on the port side.
I usually wait 'til the end of season and get all my dings sorted in one go.

I must say the twee England bunting sets it all off rather nicely!

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[tcm]

Re: england flags

shuttup shuttup NOT my idea

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[nicho]

Re: Port Solent Pillocks

It wasn't me!

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