This should be interesting, help me fantasise my next boat

[stuartwineberg]

As I sit in my kitchen, glass of wine in hand, thoughts stray to a bigger boat. I have a Hardy 25, via a Hardy 36 which was too much for my wallet. I am retiring so want to escape the Solent. I need heavy duty build, 2 engines, not modern direct electronic problem filled versions. Budget max £100k. Not a speed freak so a 17-18 knot cruise is fine. Hopefully the forum is also relaxing with a pre-work tipple and can come up with some ideas

 

[Medskipper]

As I sit in my kitchen, glass of wine in hand, thoughts stray to a bigger boat. I have a Hardy 25, via a Hardy 36 which was too much for my wallet. I am retiring so want to escape the Solent. I need heavy duty build, 2 engines, not modern direct electronic problem filled versions. Budget max £100k. Not a speed freak so a 17-18 knot cruise is fine. Hopefully the forum is also relaxing with a pre-work tipple and can come up with some ideas

I purchased a princess 435 last year. What a lovely boat! Spacious, comfortable, well built and they are now in your price range! The aft cabin alone is well worth a look at!
good luck.

 

[Firefly625]

http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1143084/

 

[burgundyben]

http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1143084/

Brave choice with 15 year old Yanmars.

Sounds like Grand Banks, De Fever, Hardy, Seaward, Nelson, Hershine, Cheoy Lee, Trader.

I would see electronic engines as a bonus.

 

[stuartwineberg]

http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1143084/

Get thee behind me Satan!!! Nice looking boat and someone has spent some money on her including the cambelt job

 

[stuartwineberg]

Brave choice with 15 year old Yanmars.

Sounds like Grand Banks, De Fever, Hardy, Seaward, Nelson, Hershine, Cheoy Lee, Trader.

I would see electronic engines as a bonus.

Thanks - some interesting and unusual names here. On the engine front, I just feel uneasy about complex electronics and sea water plus all the threads we read here about electrical gremlins. I'm a bit old school - wouldn't have outdrives either!

 

[Flynnbarr]

Brave choice with 15 year old Yanmars.

Sounds like Grand Banks, De Fever, Hardy, Seaward, Nelson, Hershine, Cheoy Lee, Trader.

I would see electronic engines as a bonus.

I thought Yanmars were ok?
Why would 15 yr old Yanmars be a brave choice if FSH? Would be interested to know as that boat would be my cuppa tea!

 

[Firefly625]

I thought Yanmars were ok?
Why would 15 yr old Yanmars be a brave choice if FSH? Would be interested to know as that boat would be my cuppa tea!

if they do go wrong, parts prices are eye watering....

 

[stuartwineberg]

if they do go wrong, parts prices are eye watering....

True but I haven't heard of problems with these 6 cylinder jobs except for rotting exhaust elbows but I would be interested to hear what VPaul thinks. This is fantasy land BTW but she is a nice boat. As always the snag with these larger older boats is that mooring fees, insurance and repair bills are the same as for a new one - sadly these costs don't drop with age!

 

[Flynnbarr]

if they do go wrong, parts prices are eye watering....

Ahh ok,so winging it isn't an option
Always had Perkins or Volvos.

 

[Jack Haines]

Have you considered a Corvette 320? Would need to haggle to get one in budget but it's doable.

 

[Firefly625]

Ahh ok,so winging it isn't an option
Always had Perkins or Volvos.

from memory a fuel pump for one of these is £4k for example. I had a Yanmar in my last boat and a part from the turbo that needed refurbing it was a superb engine... its the "what if" factor.

But I do like a Grand banks..

 

[Flynnbarr]

Have you considered a Corvette 320? Would need to haggle to get one in budget but it's doable.

Most of the later ones have Yanmars!
I preferred it when I was computer illiterate and was blissfully unaware!

 

[Firefly625]

Have you considered a Corvette 320? Would need to haggle to get one in budget but it's doable.

trouble with Corvettes is everyone wants one so tired old boats with under powered lumps are still up for silly money. You seem to need a good £150k in the bank to go and haggle for a late one... then it will have a pair of Yanmars

 

[jfm]

Stuart I reckon you should rethink your objection to electronic control. You hear of problems but that's just because people write about those problems, and they don't write about mechanically controlled engine problems. A decent computer is much better at putting the right amount of diesel into the cylinder than a mechanical governor. I've boated with electronics since 2003 with never any problem, but before that I always had a bloke with spanners fiddling with my TAMD63Ps and someone else cleaning the soot off the transom (perfectly nice engine, mind!)

 

[burgundyben]

Stuart I reckon you should rethink your objection to electronic control. You hear of problems but that's just because people write about those problems, and they don't write about mechanically controlled engine problems. A decent computer is much better at putting the right amount of diesel into the cylinder than a mechanical governor. I've boated with electronics since 2003 with never any problem, but before that I always had a bloke with spanners fiddling with my TAMD63Ps and someone else cleaning the soot off the transom (perfectly nice engine, mind!)

Absolutely, I don't get my boat owners are such Luddites. I'd love to put electronic engines in PT.

 

[stuartwineberg]

Stuart I reckon you should rethink your objection to electronic control. You hear of problems but that's just because people write about those problems, and they don't write about mechanically controlled engine problems. A decent computer is much better at putting the right amount of diesel into the cylinder than a mechanical governor. I've boated with electronics since 2003 with never any problem, but before that I always had a bloke with spanners fiddling with my TAMD63Ps and someone else cleaning the soot off the transom (perfectly nice engine, mind!)

Well I do have to admit to having to clean my transom fairly frequently - point well made though. I think part of the issue is that I am boating at the edge of my budget and I have the impression which may be incorrect that if a piece of electronic gubbins does fail its a big chunk of cash whereas the mechanical bits on an older engine don't seem as bad - point about Yanmar spares being understood however. I am also not keen on being held hostage to a main dealer with a laptop if it needs resetting or diagnosing - I'd much rather ring VP