The restoration of PS Ryde.

My view on it is at least ' the ship ' is around for people to enjoy.

They ' restore ' Spitfires from crashed ones using literally just the old makers' plate - purists may moan but again at least it's another Spitfire going.
 

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Incredible to think chums and I were drinking in the nightclub ogling crumpet aboard her, seems 5 minutes ago - very sad.

I expect she'd say the same if she saw me !

I mentioned Ryde and old memories when I was last at the Folly; the chap I was talking to said " best not look " - so I didn't.

That lady reckons Ryde is a restoration project does she - is she in car sales by any chance ?!
 
Seajet said:
Incredible to think chums and I were drinking in the nightclub ogling crumpet aboard her, seems 5 minutes ago - very sad.

I expect she'd say the same if she saw me !
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I sincerely hope that you are in better nick than she is.

Those photos do suggest it is too late (for the boat). Better to spend the money and build the skills on a documented and careful deconstruction. Any artefacts and spare cash to be passed on to one of the viable ships......... Waverley, Maid of the Loch, Blamoral, Queen Mary.
 
Romeo said:
I sincerely hope that you are in better nick than she is.

Those photos do suggest it is too late (for the boat). Better to spend the money and build the skills on a documented and careful deconstruction. Any artefacts and spare cash to be passed on to one of the viable ships......... Waverley, Maid of the Loch, Blamoral, Queen Mary.
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I'd almost agree.

It is sadly too late for the Ryde, and any money raised should be used to preserve the paddle steamers and classic ships that are still in service. We don't want to lose the ones we still have for a potentially expensively documented scrapping of a ship well past it's prime.

But certainly, save Ryde's best bits for a suitable museum.
 
Unless something has happened, she still has her engine there; in nightclub days it was still accessible, with a gallery platform all around and still gleaming, someone loved her; I tended to migrate there with my pint having given up on the girlies.

The bridge was still accessible too, I may be imagining it but I seem to remember the telegraph but not the wheel ( first target for souvenir hunters ) was still there.

Also lots of framed photo's around of her in wartime and Sealink days; as far as I know she remained in the same paint, just without the Sealink / BR logo on the funnel.

I was always interested in her forward rudder, at the forefoot of the bow - the main one was still at the stern, this was I believe used for low speed manouvering when going astern.

Contrary to intuitive belief - inc mine - turning one paddlewheel one way, other side going the other way, is not a good idea for manouvering and a few paddlesteamers sank trying it, so well before Rydes' time all paddlesteamers had both wheels on a common axle.
 
Seajet said:
Unless something has happened, she still has her engine there; in nightclub days it was still accessible, with a gallery platform all around and still gleaming, someone loved her; I tended to migrate there with my pint having given up on the girlies.

The bridge was still accessible too, I may be imagining it but I seem to remember the telegraph but not the wheel ( first target for souvenir hunters ) was still there.

Also lots of framed photo's around of her in wartime and Sealink days; as far as I know she remained in the same paint, just without the Sealink / BR logo on the funnel.

I was always interested in her forward rudder, at the forefoot of the bow - the main one was still at the stern, this was I believe used for low speed manouvering when going astern.

Contrary to intuitive belief - inc mine - turning one paddlewheel one way, other side going the other way, is not a good idea for manouvering and a few paddlesteamers sank trying it, so well before Rydes' time all paddlesteamers had both wheels on a common axle.
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The PAS paddle tugs in Pompey were diesel electric and had independently controlled paddles, there was a thread on the ECF (of all places) about them recently!
 
langstonelayabout said:
I'd almost agree.

It is sadly too late for the Ryde, and any money raised should be used to preserve the paddle steamers and classic ships that are still in service. We don't want to lose the ones we still have for a potentially expensively documented scrapping of a ship well past it's prime.

But certainly, save Ryde's best bits for a suitable museum.
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Had a good look around yesterday and what wasn't collapsed was paper thin lacy metalwork, so if there are any good bits at all they must have been taken off for storage a decade ago. There's little there but a memory of a bow, a memory of a stern and a collapsed heap of junk in between including a rusted, twisted and broken frame for the paddle box.

Used to go for coffee and pasties there when we kept a boat at Island Harbour in 80s and early 90s before there was any other place there (apart from a caravan) to get food and drinks, and this was the first time I'd been back since.
 
Habebty said:
The PAS paddle tugs in Pompey were diesel electric and had independently controlled paddles, there was a thread on the ECF (of all places) about them recently!
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Any chance of a link please, esp the independent paddles ? I read quite an article about independent jobs sinking paddlesteamers, of course when I searched today I couldn't find it...
 
Thanks Habebty,

I'd read the account a while ago of a 19th Century paddlesteamers getting themselves flooded and capsized by the water and heeling moment of independent paddlewheels, now all I could find are oblique references to those accidents and ' despite this, paddlewheel tugs had independent wheels so as to do their job '...


I had a motorised paddlewheel model boat as a boy, it did a very good imitation of a crash diving submarine - but that was due to silly short wheel covers / boxes allowing splashing straight into the engine room - battery box...
 
Wouldn't it be a great deal cheaper just to get the lines and build from scratch? If they do succeed in funding surely there's nothing usable left in the original structure? Yes by all means take anything usable they can, then just scrap what's left. It's what they will have to do anyway.

Whatever they do it will not be the old Ryde I used to go on as a youth, just a replica. Unlike Waverley who has retained her Identity as a functioning ship throughout,. It would be interesting to know how much of the original Waverley still exists in the present hull. Probably quite a bit, unlike anything in the Ryde which will be too far gone to be usable.
 
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