The preferred layout

[Daydream believer]

I'm impressed that you can get the paper boy to deliver on long-distance voyages.

Young boys have always been an important accessory, for sailors on long offshore trips.
How else would they get the apples out of the bottom of the apple barrel

 

[geem]

Is great reading threads like this. It shows how our requirements can be so vastly different from one person to another.
Our boat is 44ft. Two heads, two cabins. With friends onboard (they arrive on Saturday for a week) they get the huge forepeak berth and front heads. We will be in the aft cabins with the ensuite.
When we have friends onboard it's nice to be able to maintain some privacy. When there is just me and the Mrs, we have a heads each.

 

[doug748]

Given that, unless you are chartering, many second aft cabins are probably used for stowage, the new First 36 has a neat solution for a lightweight boat:



The cabin can be configured for stowage by removing the cushions, bunkboards etc. Would prefer cockpit stowage myself but there we go.

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[Daydream believer]

Seeing Geem's comment sent me off track a bit
I know this off topic but the talk of his 2 heads reminds me of the design items I gave the architect when designing my house.
2 Heads one up, one down. The down stairs one to have wheelchair access & a large shower access.
BUT & here was a big "but". No way was the loo to go anywhere near the front door. It is surprising how many houses have one designed such. It just means guests are unpleasantly surprised when they enter.

One can imagine the "Borat" comment that some of my closer friends might make-- " Oh I see you have just... etc etc etc " well you get the idea

 

[johnalison]

Seeing Geem's comment sent me off track a bit
I know this off topic but the talk of his 2 heads reminds me of the design items I gave the architect when designing my house.
2 Heads one up, one down. The down stairs one to have wheelchair access & a large shower access.
BUT & here was a big "but". No way was the loo to go anywhere near the front door. It is surprising how many houses have one designed such. It just means guests are unpleasantly surprised when they enter.

One can imagine the "Borat" comment that some of my closer friends might make-- " Oh I see you have just... etc etc etc " well you get the idea

Whoever designed our house got it right in that we have three loos, which is the bare minimum needed when the family come to stay.

As for boats, we manage well enough with only one aft cabin. Working my way past sleeping visitors in the saloon doesn't bother me, and a saloon berth is by far the best one for an off-watch skipper to rest on when on passage, since he or she is in touch with the goings-on and can be out in a few seconds.

Many years ago we found ourselves next to a Moody 38-ish whose owner told me that he had been a senior member of the HROA, even commodore perhaps, but he always sailed with four blokes on board and the HR equivalent with only one heads would have meant that the four of them would spend half the night queuing.

 

[Daydream believer]

Whoever designed our house got it right in that we have three loos, which is the bare minimum needed when the family come to stay.

As for boats, we manage well enough with only one aft cabin. Working my way past sleeping visitors in the saloon doesn't bother me, and a saloon berth is by far the best one for an off-watch skipper to rest on when on passage, since he or she is in touch with the goings-on and can be out in a few seconds.

Many years ago we found ourselves next to a Moody 38-ish whose owner told me that he had been a senior member of the HROA, even commodore perhaps, but he always sailed with four blokes on board and the HR equivalent with only one heads would have meant that the four of them would spend half the night queuing.

I think that the worse thing for sailors is the poorly designed toilets like Eastbourne. The architects who designed those should design one more & then get shot.
The shower & the wc is in the same cubicle. So not only does one have to wait for another to finish their shower to have a s..t. But someone who only wants a shower after a crowd of winch monkeys have finished emptying last nights curry has to shower whilst smelling the after shock.
Why on earth put the wc & shower in the same cubicle.
Mind you the showers at Hartlepool nearly got me locked up.
I went for a shower late one night when no one was there. The light sensor was in the middle of the room. So I was showering & the light went off. No amount of arm waving helped. So covered in suds I stepped out of the shower & did a little dance in the middle of the room in the all together.
I had not noticed a small boy walk in. Fortunately he took one look & shot out. Cannot say I blame him. But I got showered a bit sharppish & disappeared quickly. No idea what he told his dad.

 

[Frogmogman]

A French singlehander strapped a plastic toilet seat to the mesh of his trimaran's tramp-netting....

In the early 80s the French racing yacht Revolution had a sugar scoop fitted. She appeared in Cowes one time with a lavatory in the sugar scoop and her name modified to Revolootion.

 

[Greemble]

To me that is a very strange idea of pleasure... I can think of plenty of other things that are far more pleasurable .

There is nothing so overrated as a bad f**k
There is nothing so underrated as a good s**t

- Elif Shafak, "The Bastard of Istanbul"

 

[geem]

In the early 80s the French racing yacht Revolution had a sugar scoop fitted. She appeared in Cowes one time with a lavatory in the sugar scoop and her name modified to Revolootion.

Was that the poop deck?

 

[Frogmogman]

Was that the poop deck?

Boom ! Tish !