Kelpie
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I suppose it reflects how we used our house too- we're sofa people, the armchair is where the dog slept
Each to their own
The preferred layout
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Each to their own
Baggywrinkle
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Did my annual week sail with a group of friends - there were 5 of us - we were on an owners version of a Bavaria 37 - it was not a pleasant experience. 2 people ended up in the saloon so getting up in the morning - instead of going into a cool, empty saloon to make breakfast with the gentle sound of snoring coming from behind closed doors, we had semi-naked bodies strewn on the sofas, and the smell of stale breath and farts in the saloon - not pleasant - give me a 3-cabin layout any day of the week, My own boat was the same size but a 3 cabin version - it was a much nicer experience - and when we were just 2 on the boat, I used one of the cabins for storage of water toys etc.
To make up for a missing double bed, we had a seperate shower area in the loo - which was great but which comes with slightly larger 3 cabin AWBs anyway - and a massive cockpit locker that was so deep and so full of "stuff" that we never took it all out and cursed every time something fell into the bottom of the locker - access from the shower was not great either.
Lockers are like dustbins, or lanes on a motorway, no matter how many you have, they are always full.
I vote for 3 cabins all the time - but I'm relatively sociable and like to sail with family and friends.
To make up for a missing double bed, we had a seperate shower area in the loo - which was great but which comes with slightly larger 3 cabin AWBs anyway - and a massive cockpit locker that was so deep and so full of "stuff" that we never took it all out and cursed every time something fell into the bottom of the locker - access from the shower was not great either.
Lockers are like dustbins, or lanes on a motorway, no matter how many you have, they are always full.
I vote for 3 cabins all the time - but I'm relatively sociable and like to sail with family and friends.
dansaskip
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What's wrong with a bucket?
Wansworth
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Quite like layout in boats with the toilet right up forwards,makes use of awkward shape and still allows access to store stuff,no need for w to include shower .
Bobc
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Having a pee whilst going upwind into a chop is hilarious, right up to the point where you come off a wave and get covered in piss.
Wansworth
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Sit down first
LadyInBed
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A 3rd cabin would make a good workshop, or if you "hire in" mixes sex crews I could see a case for a 3rd cabin.
capnsensible
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Just make it a rule that you only go one person at a time.
zoidberg
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Of course you'd need two - his and hers. In different colours....
V1701
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I find Boatshed ads tend to be the worst for broker speak and waxing lyrical/talking nonsense...
jordanbasset
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We had a three cabin Bav 38 when we were liveaboards
We liked it, used one of the starboard cabins for storage, we found it much easier to get to things than in a deep cockpit locker
We liked it, used one of the starboard cabins for storage, we found it much easier to get to things than in a deep cockpit locker
Baggywrinkle
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Which is the best, most glamorous, and most capable boat in the world?
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Answer: The one you are currently trying to sell.
dancrane
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Hopefully the memory will be an ideal way of encouraging you not to invite them.
Although if the accommodation didn't oblige them to share what they couldn't have wanted to, they mightn't have 'gone off' so quickly.Treating the saloon as a sitting/eating area which isn't for sleeping or sock-depositing purposes and meanwhile providing a WC/shower for each couple or individual party aboard may not be easy, but must be preferred if the budget allows.
Favourite is the designs where each sleeping cabin has dedicated facilities only accessible from within an outer cabin door - rather than an ill-fitting 9mm plywood door being all that separates the otherwise-unventilated WC from the diners 12 inches away.
Five private bathrooms, and that's only a 44-footer (Nauticat).
Accepting the inescapable earthiness of smaller boats, I prefer the WC in the bows.
The three-berth Vancouver 27 is a great bit of design - it effectively prohibits too many bodies on board in the first place; it gives a cruising couple a comfortable port-or-starboard sofa each to sprawl and sleep on, knowing the other party has their own; there are no hideous V-berth foot-fights to obstruct sleep; the WC compartment in the bows is luxuriously spacious for lockers and basin etc, unlike the commonplace 22"-wide budget-airline style compartment; and the crapper doesn't nuke the whole boat because the big opened forehatch can vent the space while he/she is washing hands. The five berth version of the same boat gets nearly all those features wrong, just so that five people can lie down simultaneously.
What was the question, again?
Bobc
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It was a Beneteau First 42s7 in the ROI race, and I was sitting down.Sit down first
Tranona
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Don't tell my dog! My first lab loved the boat, but would only sleep in the quarter berth. Maybe now I have another boat with a quarter berth current dog may be temptedI suppose it reflects how we used our house too- we're sofa people, the armchair is where the dog slept
Each to their own
ChromeDome
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Hired a 10.4 m boat in Friesland a couple of times. Same boat because it was perfect for the two of us.
Would fit at home as well, 80-90% of the time we are two onboard only.
One island bed, full pantry with like-home facilities, separate wc and shower, roomy cabin with helm, cockpit with 2nd helm
Would fit at home as well, 80-90% of the time we are two onboard only.
One island bed, full pantry with like-home facilities, separate wc and shower, roomy cabin with helm, cockpit with 2nd helm
dancrane
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I reckon almost the only time a company consciously redesigned one of its own internal layouts for the improved enjoyment of a married couple (the likeliest crew), rather than the standard squeeze-in-six-and-to-hell-with-comfort, was Westerly's Konsort Duo.
It could sleep four or even five, but is designed with the double bed being for sleeping, the dinette for sitting, probably the roomiest bathroom on any boat under 30ft, and a single berth for use on passage or more likely, for stowing stuff.
It could sleep four or even five, but is designed with the double bed being for sleeping, the dinette for sitting, probably the roomiest bathroom on any boat under 30ft, and a single berth for use on passage or more likely, for stowing stuff.
Wansworth
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A few years ago whilst looking for a yacht inthe UK I went to see a owner fitted out macwester26,they seemed to have gone out of their way to make it difficult to get into the berths in the focsle and impossible to sit comfortably in the saloon,very neatly fitted out with obvious attention to detail but forgot what the accomodation was for.
ChromeDome
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The hired boat mentioned in #36 even had very good comfort. Fully insulated, double glazing, central heating and lots of hot water.
Sold now, but pictures here
Freule - Yachtcharter Heegstra
Sold now, but pictures here
Freule - Yachtcharter Heegstra
