The new Prestige 680…. an 'exclusive scoop'!

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After posting here three months ago that, in my opinion, the soon to be launched Prestige 680 would prove to be strong opposition for the very beautiful Princess 68, finally last Wednesday I had the chance to test out whether or not this comment was justified. My wife and I were privileged to be invited to the ACI marina in Dubrovnic as the very first private clients to have sight of the completed prototype, and to have an uninterrupted day inspecting her and to have an extended sea-trial. This was exceptional privilege was granted to us even before it had been officially launched to the Prestige dealerships, something which has now just been completed over this weekend, and before it had been shown to the press as well, which is happening this week. So this post is the very first published report of what is truly a remarkable yacht, and includes the photos that I took.
NB: What follows is not meant to be a professional, or indeed comprehensive review, but just my personal impression having now had the chance to compare both boats.


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Hull 1 has a bimini top; Hull 2 will have the hard top top option fitted. The raised level of the foredeck is to accommodate the ceiling height in the master cabin.

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The 680 has an extending 'letter box' passarelle, glendinning cabling, and there are steps built into the platform which open up for easy access when it is lowered, which is a particularly useful feature. Since most people will fit a tender on the platform, for Med mooring in winter - or in strong winds - I would put two additional cleats higher up on the transom so that diagonally tied spring ropes can clear the tender.

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The transom access to the engine room, with the skipper's cabin on the left and a small separately accessed head to the right. This is a very useful layout as when anchored up for swimming/lunch as it saves walking back into boat and down the stairs to the guest head. The combo washing machine is fitted in the passageway to the engine room too.

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Twin 900HP Volvo 1200 IPS engines, with an optional Seakeeper gyro stabiliser fitted under the generator. Either side are the twin tanks holding 3,450 litres of fuel. The engine room seemed well laid out with plenty of space to walk round for servicing. A ladder provides the secondary access via the cockpit.


My wife's first words, as we both stood on the cockpit of the 680 looking into the salon was ‘’WOW, it looks amazing!’’. The entrance is via a three panelled sliding door, which folds left into just one section if required; so the opening can be very spacious. Opposite the well arranged and functional galley is a dining area with a stylish extending glass top table and there is only one small step up into the salon seating area. Currently opposite the L shaped sofa is a large 50 “ TV on a low unit, behind which is the staircase down to the guest cabins. However Prestige realise that having such a very large TV positioned there is not ideal, and on later models an option will be offered to replace this with an additional sofa, and instead an ‘up and down’ 42 inch TV will be concealed in the storage unit beside the lower helm. This will create a far more social arrangement.

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The galley has a large fridge with freezer, a Miele combination oven and vitro ceramic hob and a good sized dishwasher. The stairs down to entrance to the master cabin are top left, and the staircase down to the guest quarters just on the right as you go up the step to the salon. The L-shaped sofa has two matching movable upholstered stools. With the additional sofa to be fitted, we would do away with one of those. There is an optional wine fridge fitted into the unit by the helm.

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The new fashion for a run of multiple very large chart plotters. There is a large sliding door to the right behind the helm seat giving access to the gangway. This means that, with the joystick which is positioned just by the opening, the skipper has excellent visibility to easily reverse for med mooring or to berth the boat to the starboard side for refuelling or mooring sideways on.


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There are just five steps down from the salon to the master cabin in the bow. Since we never use the desk as a desk 'per se', we would consider converting the space under to cupboards. There is also a small walk-in wardrobe to the right of the desk.

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The master cabin on the 680 is a big improvement on the design of the 750. Instead of the multiple small windows found on the larger boat, here Prestige have used large single panels. Above the bed are three skylights with electrically controlled blinds, and as elsewhere, the floor is all on one level throughout the master cabin and head.

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The master head. The door into it and that of the VIP is made of frosted glass.


The entrance to the guest cabins and day head is via an L shaped staircase to the starboard side of the salon which leads into a corridor with the door to the VIP cabin on the left, straight ahead is the guest/day head and to the right the doors to two twin bed cabins. Once down the stairs, all the floor levels are flat with no steps up or down. As you can see, the VIP cabin is far larger than any comparable sized yacht, or indeed many a much larger yacht. It could easily be used by an owner who has children that they want to have close by, leaving the bow cabin for guests.


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The incredibly spacious VIP cabin

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VIP cabin and entrance to head

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Port side 3rd cabin which is next to the day head

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Starboard side 4th cabin. If a buyer wanted just three cabins, there is an option to combine these two smaller twin bed cabins into another very large single VIP, which would actually become the largest cabin on the boat.

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Day/guest head with synthetic stone sink and top.

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The placement of the instrumentation on the flybridge helm will be rearranged to improve visibility of the screens of the small repeaters. They will now be placed between the two Raymarine chart plotters. Also the current layout and functionality of the fly galley does not work very well, so this needs to be reconfigured too.

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The helm seat back rest can be moved forward to create more seating for the bench behind, and the starboard (left in pic) bench folds flat to make an even larger sun pad.

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My deck hand (aka the wife) doing what she does best - the rope work

Due to a technical problem, on the sea trial we sadly were not able to have the Seakeeper stabiliser working, however we were able to see the effectiveness of the Interceptor trim tabs. And my only experience of the two helm positions was on the flybridge, where there was the usual array of instrumentation dominated by two large Raymarine chartplotters. When sailing the boat, the main things that I remember were that the steering was very precise and immediate, so little movement was needed on the wheel. The two 900hp Volvo engines were very responsive to the throttle and the boat easily powered through what was quite a high swell and muddled sea (after an incredibly dramatic thunderstorm). Given the swell, we did not go faster than 24 knts (burning around 250 LPH) and at a more comfortable 21knts we were burning 210 LPH. At 17 knots we were using around 160 LPH which is only 15LPH more than what I achieve with my current 550 and their 600HP Cummins Mercruiser engines. So as long as one doesn’t push the boat too hard, the fuel economy seems to be very good and the 3,450 litre tanks should allow for reasonably extended cruising before refueling is required. The engine noise levels in the salon when we sailing at 20 kts were remarkably low, and I did not notice any rattling or creaking of the structure and fittings.

Sailing her back to the marina I was surprised when they suggested that I berthed her. To do this I had to moor up sideways back onto the pontoon that had little space between the two other yachts parked up at either end. So during this manoeuvre the thought crossed my mind of the old joke in the antique trade, if you break it - you buy it! However to my great relief the Volvo joystick control was so precise and smooth - far better than the Cummins on my 550 which is quite jerky – so I was able to spin the boat round 180 degrees and gently move her sideways into the relatively narrow gap without crunching into anything. Phew!

Conclusions:

Prestige have made huge strides forward with this boat, combining as it does some of the design features they first introduced with the 750 with genetics of the design of the 550. They have made a great strides in improving the construction and general level of finish, and the result is - to my eye - very impressive. With the benefit of having more internal space to play with, as a result of using the IPS drive system as against shaft, they have created a 68 footer with exceptional living quarters. Truly a boat that one can happily live in. Whilst the level of the internal finishes may still not be a sumptuous as that seen on - for example - the equivalent Princess or Sunseeker, Prestige have recognised that the savings in weight and therefore fuel consumption and running costs are something that any canny buyer will want to consider seriously. But even more importantly, there is the huge differential in there initial purchase price. With a very similar spec, the Princess 68 comes in at around £2.35m, whereas the Prestige 68 will cost around £1.8m (@ €1.4 to the pound). Leaving aside the £550k differential - which is somewhat difficult to ignore! - even if they were not so far apart, there are many elements of the design and functionality which my wife and I personally prefer to those of the Princess.

So the result of all this is that - subject to signing on the dotted line and paying the deposit - I have shaken hands with the directors of Prestige and Nick Hatfield of Ancasta on buying the first 680 to be specifically built for a private customer, and for delivery next April. I will be genuinely very sad to have to part with Gentileschi, my much loved Prestige 550, and I do hope that she will find a new owner who will care for her as much as I do.
 
Congratulations .
The price differential for what is a hobby certainly makes one think .
Presumably in the engine room on the production run the wiring above the Geny will be tidied up?

Also no water in the fuel probes wiring evident on the solid metal "racor " like primary filters .

Ali tanks have sight glasses -that's good .
What colour scheme does your wife reckon will look best in the cabins ? Brown everywhere I suspect does not really do it justice .
Best of luck in the transaction
 
Wow! What a lovely boat. Even has a decent looking lower helm - my personal bugbear. Just needs a head-up display...

Somehow looks even bigger inside than a seventy-footer has any right to look.
 
Great post Mark, sorry that I've not replied to your pm, just been away from the forum and email for a couple of days.

Tell Nick to throw a number at me if he wants to reduce his exposure, it would have to be a stupidly good offer though as we haven't really got the urge for a larger boat, as lovely as Gentileschi is.

Really excited for you and very keen to see the story unfold, you'll know by now that Nick is a great guy, very straightforward and easy to work with and as you know I really can't fault the entire team at Ancasta.

Very interested to hear your comments re Volvo versus Cummins joystick, I totally agree that the experience is far more refined on the Volvo system.

This boat will sell in big numbers, no doubt and it will be interesting to see how long it takes for another yard to copy the format.

warmest regards
 
The boat does look really nice.

I'm never, ever, going to be in a position to buy one of these so perhaps my comments are mute but - why do builders persist on sh!t flat bench seats for the helms. Look at JFMs Squadron - surely there is room in the budget for some decent seats
 
Thanks for the words and pictures.

We don't see these in the U.S. Is Prestige part of the Jenneau family?

I have not been on a boat with one, but I hear those gyros are amazing.
 
The boat does look really nice.

I'm never, ever, going to be in a position to buy one of these so perhaps my comments are mute but - why do builders persist on sh!t flat bench seats for the helms. Look at JFMs Squadron - surely there is room in the budget for some decent seats

Horses for courses Jez, bench seat is a must for us as our dog sits between us on passage. Worth sitting at a Prestige helm to see how comfortable the seat is along with how good a driving position you get...you might be surprised.

Of course, diamond double stitched Napa leather looks fantastic, (I love the Pearl helm seats for example), but they wouldn't work for us.
 
Really beautiful boat and congratulations! Fantastic pictures.
Must say I am a shaft man and rather uncomfortable with IPS on larger boats. I dont recall the big 3 using IPS on their larger boats at all. Also must budget for their expensive annual maintenance and repair. Though much better now than a decade ago reliability is still an issue IMHO.
 
This is my first opportunity to reply to various comments posted as I have been off the radar travelling for the last 24hrs, and had the frustrations of experiencing the total carnage on the roads created on both sides of the Channel by the French strikers in Calais and I have only just got home exhausted!

… What colour scheme does your wife reckon will look best in the cabins ? Brown everywhere I suspect does not really do it justice .

Actually we quite liked the colour scheme on this boat, and we both felt the darker carpet would be easier to maintain that the very pale cream colour that we have on the 550.

… Does this mean we can all look forward to a "boat in build"thread?
I hope so.

Hahaa maybe! But if so, please do not expect as detailed a one as some of our legendary members are renowned for!

Nice looking boat. Congratulations. Noticed that the IPS joystick is missing from the lower helm in your pics.

It is there, just not in the photo.

Tell Nick to throw a number at me if he wants to reduce his exposure, it would have to be a stupidly good offer though as we haven't really got the urge for a larger boat, as lovely as Gentileschi is.

Thank you for your kind words, as always, Nigel. We all know that when you sell your boat you have to be prepared to ‘’take a bath’’… but I would rather not drown!! ;-)

…why do builders persist on sh!t flat bench seats for the helms. Look at JFMs Squadron - surely there is room in the budget for some decent seats

I agree with my wingman Nigel, my wife and I also really like the bench seats as it means we can cuddle up together as we bob along… though in our case we do not have any dogs to come between us!

We don't see these in the U.S. Is Prestige part of the Je(a)nneau family?

Yes, but they are a now an independent division and have several dealerships marketing their boats in the USA.
 
I agree with my wingman Nigel, my wife and I also really like the bench seats as it means we can cuddle up together as we bob along… though in our case we do not have any dogs to come between us!

Go MAFWeiss!! The very same argument that Cadillac used to tempt a generation of baby boomers to the front seat design of their automobiles (and none the worse for that). :D
 
Agree re cream carpet ,one only has it once if possible ,it's dreadfull to keep nice with a family .
Yup brown / dark perhaps with a flec if poss? For the floor .
In my ( new to me ) boat we do not have any carpet at all -teak and holly cabin soles everyware ..
Maybe you could spec a wooded floor in the main saloon ?
 
Nick Hatfield from Ancasta has just sent me this photo from the official launch party for the Prestige dealerships in that was held in Dubrovnic on Sunday night. As you can see, the external design of the boat owes more to the Garroni concept for the 450/500/550/620 range than the 750.

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Thanks for taking the time to post and I look forward to seeing a build thread in the not too distant future.

Quite different from other offerings out there and I do struggle with IPS at that size but we've chatted about that in the past. Impossible to deny your observations on price but of course no one really knows actual values until you've done the deal.

Clearly prestige are rolling out the red carpet for you which is great to see. Buying a boat should be a lovely experience.

You've got plenty to chat about :)

Henry :)
 
Hi Mark
Thanks for all this and congratulations on the new almost-signed purchase. Prestige have raised their game significantly with this boat I think. It looks very impressive indeed and they will grab a few buyers from competing marques I think. The cabins ambience in the two bigger cabins is very nice indeed. They've woven in some quality touches to impress buyers - eg margin boards on the teak decks (but they stopped at mitres!) and contemporary looking interior accom as well as the exterior spaces. There are still some visible economies like gelcoated bathroom floors and single fuel filters on the main engines etc, but as you say the pricing is pretty compelling.

I think Prestige have the aft cleats just right btw, and I wouldn't add the ones you talked about because they will be too low and the crossed lines will chafe the tender all winter long. You should either take the lines under the tender to the low cleats (as I do), or take them thru the main quarter fairleads to another cleat so that they are as high as possible and don't chafe.

I see that bimini is hydraulically operated which is nice, but academic I guess if you choose the HT. Also, perhaps see if you can spec Lumishore lights (4x120s on this sized boat) rather than the ones they've fitted.

If they are in a mood to listen to design changes then I think, on a boat like this which is getting into a different league, you should check the tech specs very carefully. Examples would be: what is the airco capacity (you want 7T in that sized boat in the warm med, imho) , and what airco equipment is installed? Is the bow thruster side-power or their Maxpower cost saving alternative? What anchor winch is fitted? Is that engine room air intake on the hull side too low - why is it there? Which exact Seakeeper model is it? The genset looks like an MDKBT (~22.5kva (same as mine) which is a very nice machine capable of nearly 100 amps @230v, but if they have given you a 100 amp shorepower cable too, what arrangements have they provided for handling it (they're heavy!)? I get your point on the Cadillac bench seat but the backrest surely needs to be higher. What is the interior lighting? (try to avoid the baseline stuff from the quick catalogue) . There is no such thing as a good sized dishwasher - for this purpose they come in 45 or 60cm and you need a 60 on that sized boat, and Miele is very boaty because of the 30 minute wash cycle (so you have option to turn off genset in the evening). These are some of the questions I'd ask, and seek to get the design changed where needed

The other biggie for me, and I haven't seen it in the flesh, is the hull shape. They've designed the interior they want and then wrapped the hull around it, at the bow. You sure you're ok with that? It will be fine in calm weather of course, but that is one heck of a non sharp entry in heavier weather. It may be ok in the flesh and I'm only looking at pictures, but until happy with it in the flesh it is something I'd worry about.

I hope you enjoyed Dubrovnic. I've been to ACI marina a few times and while the marina itself isn't one of the more beautiful places on the planet, though it is ok and "does the job", the cruising within just a few miles is quite stunning
 
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Thanx JFM for all your interesting comments and queries. Rather than give a partial response immediately to the points that I know the answers to - e.g. twin fuel filters are an option (which I have ticked) - I am going to check with Prestige for the rest that I don't and post a full reply asap!
 
I have been waiting for Prestige to get back to me on some of your more detailed points, but I have been told I will have to wait till Monday for that; so in the interim, here is a partial response based on what I know:

Hi Mark
Thanks for all this and congratulations on the new almost-signed purchase. Prestige have raised their game significantly with this boat I think. It looks very impressive indeed and they will grab a few buyers from competing marques I think.

I think it has every chance of winning over clients from other manufacturers. I have spent a fair amount of time looking at the other boats in the market up to 76 feet, from Fairline, MCY, Sunseeker, Dominator and especially the new Princess 68. But this boat by far and away fulfills our requirements the best, and I think it will over many new buyers to Prestige

The cabins ambience in the two bigger cabins is very nice indeed. They've woven in some quality touches to impress buyers - eg margin boards on the teak decks (but they stopped at mitres!) and contemporary looking interior accom as well as the exterior spaces. There are still some visible economies like gelcoated bathroom floors and single fuel filters on the main engines etc, but as you say the pricing is pretty compelling.

Actually the bathroom floors are light coloured Corian, not gelcoat and the upgrade to dual filter system is an option, which we have on our 550, and I have selected it again here. And the pricing is very compelling indeed… so much so, that compared to cost of the Princess you could buy the 680, plus a Rolls Royce and a Maseratti and still have change!

... Also, perhaps see if you can spec Lumishore lights (4x120s on this sized boat) rather than the ones they've fitted.

OK… will do.

If they are in a mood to listen to design changes then I think, on a boat like this which is getting into a different league, you should check the tech specs very carefully. Examples would be: what is the airco capacity (you want 7T in that sized boat in the warm med, imho), and what airco equipment is installed?

It’s a chilled water air-con system. With all that glazing in the I am not taking any chances and getting the Tropical 105,000 BTU, regular Med is 86,000 BTU.

Is the bow thruster side-power or their Maxpower cost saving alternative? What anchor winch is fitted?

It’s a Quick 240kgf bow-thruster and seemed to be more than capable when I had a quick play with it during the sea-trial, also with the IPS you are not as reliant on using the thruster as you are with shafts. The winch - waiting on manufacturer - is a 2300 W unit with capstan.

Is that engine room air intake on the hull side too low - why is it there? Which exact Seakeeper model is it? The genset looks like an MDKBT (~22.5kva (same as mine) which is a very nice machine capable of nearly 100 amps @230v, but if they have given you a 100 amp shorepower cable too, what arrangements have they provided for handling it (they're heavy!)?

Can't answer for the air intake. A question for the designers but there must be a reason for its positioning. The NG9 is the model which is what was recommended by Seakeeper for this boat. To assist with the cabling the boat will be fitted with the Glendinning system.

I get your point on the Cadillac bench seat but the backrest surely needs to be higher. What is the interior lighting? (try to avoid the baseline stuff from the quick catalogue) . There is no such thing as a good sized dishwasher - for this purpose they come in 45 or 60cm and you need a 60 on that sized boat, and Miele is very boaty because of the 30 minute wash cycle (so you have option to turn off genset in the evening).

The bench is fine as far as I am concerned. Not sure on the specific make, but lights are LED units that all have dimmers and digital switches so you can choose where on the boat you want your light switches positioned. The dishwasher is for 9 sets of dishes, which is plenty big enough for us.

These are some of the questions I'd ask, and seek to get the design changed where needed. The other biggie for me, and I haven't seen it in the flesh, is the hull shape. They've designed the interior they want and then wrapped the hull around it, at the bow. You sure you're ok with that? It will be fine in calm weather of course, but that is one heck of a non sharp entry in heavier weather. It may be ok in the flesh and I'm only looking at pictures, but until happy with it in the flesh it is something I'd worry about.

Well as I have already said, the day we tried the boat there was a quite a big rolling swell with white caps as a result of some earlier storms, and the boat performed really well. We were able to experience sailing in conditions that we would not normally choose to cruise in. The bits of the hull you can’t see are the important areas in terms of sea keeping and it seemed to cut through the waves smoothly, with no slapping or crashing, in fact I was surprised about how dry the boat was with little spray.

I hope you enjoyed Dubrovnic. I've been to ACI marina a few times and while the marina itself isn't one of the more beautiful places on the planet, though it is ok and "does the job", the cruising within just a few miles is quite stunning

Agreed… maybe will get back there one day… and thanx for all your comments and input!
 
Quick reply as plane is pushing back. 105k btu/hr is fine. I have 10 tons/120k on sq78. 105 doesn't divide by 2 and it won't be a single 105k so I guess they fit 3x35, which is fine. Glen dinning is good- you'll love it. Dishwasher is 45cm then- you have been warned! Corian is nice- I apologise to them for jumping to gel coat mistaken conclusion! It is quite a machine for that price. Good luck with the final speccing etc. I hope someone on here buys your nice 55 :-)
 
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