I think it highlights that Fairline have got this as wrong as sunseeker have with their styling bulge compromising the side decks.God this rails saga is boring henry. A photo album of pictures ffs!
Just ask Fairline to build a sq58 with slightly higher rails, and they will oblige. Unlike princess who will hardly change a cup holder even if you buy a £10m boat, Fairline will always do a few custom requests.
I think it highlights that Fairline have got this as wrong as sunseeker have with their styling bulge compromising the side decks.
You shouldn’t have to ask for or pay extra for guard rails. And most of us can’t afford new boats, it would be difficult and expensive to fix retrospectively.
And you should be able to trust a boatbuilder to get things like this right. How many other style over boating compromises are there?
We're on the Island till next Friday, so if you're guest free and fancy a coffee, be good to catch up.I was on charter, dropped guests off at the Hut. But a bit lumpy, their rib was struggling a bit so we went into Yarmouth. Back in Lymington having finished charter.
Might do Cowes tomorrow.
Thanks for supporting my humble attempt to quote numbers, rather than debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin!On my current Predator 57, I measured the height of the railings yesterday and apart from one small area where there is a step up to the side deck, the minimum height is 75cm ... which to me seems perfectly acceptable on a boat of this size and type.
If you can’t code a boat without changing something as basic as the guardrails I’d call that wrong.I don't think it's fair to describe either Sunseeker's styling decisions or Fairline's choice of rail height as "wrong" in absolute terms. Design choices and compromises are made in every aspect of boat building and reputable builders such as Sunseeker and Fairline make them for good reasons (including styling and appearance) and work within and comply with all the safety regulations that apply to their boats. Whether their choices work for you or not is a personal consideration and depends on what you as an owner want to prioritise and how you use your boat.
There are lots of reputable builders who don't fit guard rails to their boats ... and also some where guard rails are an extra-cost option on some models. Good examples of this are Riva, Wally and Itama ... I don't think you can say that the Ferretti Group doesn't know how to build good boats or get things right. Boats like this are perfect for sitting at anchor on a hot. calm, summer's day in the Med ... whether they are the right choice for an offshore expedition on a winter's day in the English Channel is a different question.
So far as Sunseeker is concerned ... I've owned several, all with the "styling bulge" and at no time have I ever felt this impacted on the usability of the side decks or compromised safety. Sunseeker are not alone in flaring out the superstructure ... you will see this on many Med-based sports cruisers and flybridges from well known Italian builders.
On my current Predator 57, I measured the height of the railings yesterday and apart from one small area where there is a step up to the side deck, the minimum height is 75cm ... which to me seems perfectly acceptable on a boat of this size and type.
Hang on a min the Med scene is different to U.K.If you can’t code a boat without changing something as basic as the guardrails I’d call that wrong.
If you can’t code a boat without changing something as basic as the guardrails I’d call that wrong.
You are crew only on the foredeck not passengers. If you had a dinette you’d want passengers there.Hang on a min the Med scene is different to U.K.
My sans guard rails boat was built for commercial use as a taxi boat Naples to Capri hotel .It obviously passed what ever regs / codes were around at the time and it worked very well for its intended purpose .
So much so they are very popular charter boats ( and else where in the Med ) around the Amalfi region .
Similarly there’s a lot of Sunseekers all sizes on charter in the CdA a disproportionate number btw .
They look from a guard rail pov standard factory spec .
Not sure if S/Skr have alternative ( taller ) guard rails fitted if CdA based a buyer blurts out while writing the deposit check “ Build it for Fr Charter ps i fancy a slice of that pie “
I agree with this. I think this pricing is down to two factors; Brexit, and supply chain, with most stuff coming from outside UK.I do think something has gone wrong with the design and pricing of boats in the sub-70 foot range over the last few years, particularly those from the UK builders. The pricing of the Squadron 58 is just another example ... although the offerings from their competitors are the same.
You say the Squadron side decks are narrower. This simply not correct: count the side deck teak planks on this boat compared with a teaked F55 and there is a meaningful difference, like +60 or 70 mm each side extra on the Sq58. Princess have chosen narrower side decks and wider saloon, which is fine of course.