wully1
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Check out Aluring Arctic on you tube.....
The Ideal retirement boat?
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Check out Aluring Arctic on you tube.....
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And not forgetting Bob Shepton and his Westerly Discuss who actually overwintered in the ice.
Bob Shepton wins Yachtsman of the Year - Yachting World
JumbleDuck
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There is an interesting assumption that rich people have impeccable taste and that anyone who doesn't share it much be envious.The video has been posted before and the response from the envious MAB brigade was pretty much the same
Zagato
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For me it is like a Range Rover, Bentley or new BMW bike. Vehicles that have all the modern technology/consumer led gadgets but strip them down and they are the sum of poor quality parts and a poor reliability record to go with it. If I was going to cross the Sahara it would be in a simple car or even a 1960's Land Rover that I can fix myself not a modern Land Rover with a wiring loom the thickness of your thigh just so the door can shut itself. See the salesman rub his hands together when another mug walks through the door, knowing full well the product he is selling is likely to be back in the shop within the year with a warranty issue! Once the vehicle is bought folks they don,t give a crap!
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Birdseye
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Dont know about impeccable taste - thats in the eye of the beholder anyway. Its not an absolute. But its certainly true that most poor people envy rich people even if not their taste.
Birdseye
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You have some weird ideas about reliability and an obvious romantic attachment to something as crude and low quality as an old Land Rover. I've driven all sorts of cars ( inc Land Rover) since the early 60s and have not the slightest doubt that quality and reliability has improved every year since then.
Fascinated to watch a video on Harry's Garage of him taking a Testarossa to the Sahara - without significant problems. Not only an ageing supercar but Italian quality to boot. Bet he was more comfortable and had fewer issues than you would have done in a 60s Landie.
geem
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I often think if I was rich enough to afford that piece of crap I would have bought something better! Or different
Birdseye
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The Discus wasnt a bad boat for its era Geem, but modern boats are way better.
Zagato
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I work on new and old Land Rovers for a living. Land Rovers started to do down hill when Leyland took over. I would say 70% of Land Rovers that have come into me in the last ten years have had warranty issues. It's all on record if you dig around. The quality of the parts is the main problem, rubber as in rubber mounts etc, electrical components, clutch components etc etc have all been and continue to be a problem. Mechanical components like axle thickness was better in the old days, diffs, props and bearings didn,t give problems like they do now. Everything is pared down to a cost now... add in all the electronic trickery and you find yourself in limp mode more than you want to, unable to fix it yourself. Not ideal in the boat world!!
Similar to a Bentley you would not want to own a boat like that in five years time, the cost of maintaining/servicing/renewing all that older complexity would be prohibitive and a real PITA. Pete Goss has got it right, acquire the boat when new through a deal where he markets it, they sort all the new problems out immediately without fuss and not having to fight 6 months just to get them to honour a warranty and then pass it on after a couple of years...
I have no problem with the cost or even the looks of it and I am certainly not jealous of any owner. I just seriously would not want to own it... especially in retirement unless you had a man servant on board to read the library of manuals and deal with all the maintenance and hassle... and he paid for all the latter!! You will find that the wealthy who own modern houses, boats, cars, what ever, are dealing with trades all the time, it seems to be accepted now like computers that you will get problems and there is a whole massive army of technicians sorting everything. Behind every electric gate you will see a trade van!!
I don,t want to rely on others who have the knowledge to make my house, car, boat etc work and especially not pay for it all. Things used to be fit for purpose long term, they were simple...
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Skylark
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You really do lack all credibility when you refer to such a boat as a piece of crap. ?
Skylark
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You have interpreted my comment incorrectly.
NealB
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I suspect that you might have misinterpreted geem's comment: are you certain that he was referring to Pete Goss's boat? I thought it was a more generalised comment than that.
It potentially reduces your credibilty, you know!
scruff
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The Pete Goss boat certainly ticks a lot of boxes I want ticked for my next boat;
- Both myself or my wife able to get out of bed without clambering over the other
- Elevated saloon so get a nice view whilst at anchor
- Plenty of "Dry" storage in the boat for provisions
- Plenty of "Wet" storage for ropes, fenders, bicycles etc
- Hard dodger to get right out of the inclement weather whilst on watch
- A place to take foulies off before going below, keeping the living area dry
- Able to keep watch down below in the warm when the weather turns really crap
- Lifting keel to sneak in hard to reach places (can it dry out?)
- Built in redundancy with the rudders
- Plenty of anchor chain stowage & able to manage it remotely - don't need to keep poking chain to stop it piling up
- Big water tanks so not having to visit a marina every 2 weeks to fill up.
Sybarite
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Just would like to add that Garcia have always had a reputation for top quality boats. Best of the aluminium lot.
JumbleDuck
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It was more of a musing based on your comment than a direct response.
As it happens, I think that boat is butt-ugly, and i would think it butt-ugly even if I could afford it.
Bobc
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I'd rather have a Sirius ds
geem
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I wasnt commenting on the Garcia. I was generalising. When somebody goes out and spend a load of money on something crap. The Garcia isnt crap its just not for me.
dom
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Sigh, if only rich people weren't so feckless and stupid
Probably why the wealth gap is narrowing so fast
NealB
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Sigh, if only rich people weren't so feckless and stupid
Probably why the wealth gap is narrowing so fast
Sigh ......... (another one) who seems to me to be misinterpreting what someone has said!
Stemar
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Rich people need to be good at either making or hanging onto money, both if they want a superyacht, unless, of course Daddy was so rich that even a Donald couldn't blow it all. Neither ability is any indicator of taste, but nor is poverty, it just reduces the options to express the bad - or good - taste.
The Beast isn't to my taste at all. I think it's fugly but, presumably, the owner likes it. If I had to have a superyacht, I'd far rather have Mirabella, but I rather think a very customised Southerly would do better than either. A smaller boat has the big advantage that I have a legitimate excuse for refusing to take out all the new-found "friends" my sudden wealth has generated. Actually, taking them out might sound like a very good idea, as long as I'm rich enough to buy a judge and jury...
The Beast isn't to my taste at all. I think it's fugly but, presumably, the owner likes it. If I had to have a superyacht, I'd far rather have Mirabella, but I rather think a very customised Southerly would do better than either. A smaller boat has the big advantage that I have a legitimate excuse for refusing to take out all the new-found "friends" my sudden wealth has generated. Actually, taking them out might sound like a very good idea, as long as I'm rich enough to buy a judge and jury...