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Why would people want to publicise a private act of remembrance anyway? Isn't it a wee bit like showing off?

Irrelevant. Why would anyone want to criticise it?

The fact that you keep banging the drum despite causing upset shows you must be in the "deliberately nasty" camp.
 

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Irrelevant. Why would anyone want to criticise it?

The fact that you keep banging the drum despite causing upset shows you must be in the "deliberately nasty" camp.

I'm very sorry if it's upsetting you. That's not my intention. I still don't see why people post things on which they wish not to receive any comment.

Incidentally, I'm not criticising anyone for wanting to remember anyone.
 

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I completely endorse the original sentiment that initiated this thread, and I too have been disappointed by the petulance of (perhaps only a few) posters...maybe it is the anonymity of the medium...I can't believe people would interact this way if the debate was held over a couple of pints in the pub.

It seems to plague most threads that run for a while. This one looks like it may start going the same way too!

As a mobo'er just in the process of changing sides over the next month or so, I too read the MOBO threads and generally the dialogue is more mature, supportive and helpful on that side, though there are one or two more aggressive characters there too!

What ever happened to the conviviality of boating types, and sense of supporting each other?

Or plain good manners?
 

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You are however challenging their motivation for doing so. Which doesn't advance the discussion and comes across as being both provocatory and rather cynical.

Absolutely not my intention, and I apologize unreservedly if that's how it came across. I am curious about their motives for telling us what they are doing, but their motives for doing it are completely their affair,
 

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The thread started by Babylon, regarding allowing extra time for sailing to windward, is one of many with some unpleasant grumpy responses.

I have been struck by how various threads on the Scuttlebutt forum exhibit apparent short temper and lack of consideration.

In contrast the Motor Boat forum, which I look at occasionally, is more civilised. The PBO forum also seems better tempered.

These observations lead me to conclude that many occupiers of this forum are grumpy old people with little empathy for others.
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Communication is 80% non verbal.
 

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Absolutely not my intention, and I apologize unreservedly if that's how it came across. I am curious about their motives for telling us what they are doing, but their motives for doing it are completely their affair,

Good on you for your apology. :) seems i must apologise therefore for jumping to an erroneous conclusion.
 

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In theory It would be helpful if we could see the contributors face when he/she is posting.
I often make a controversial remark just to wind people up - in work & play

Ie I finished a slightly racist post( as a wind up ) on this forum with - "yes i did vote UKIP" Just to suggest a bit of " Alf Garnett" in me & my comment
That produced a really insulting comment in reply where i was referred to as a moron.
Imagine using the same comment in a sailing club with a crowd having a beer & a laugh- The comment -- "Yeah he's a B..y UKIP voter!!!" following the same comment as my post, would probably raise a laugh

In my work, if I am negotiating, I prefer to look people in the eye rather than, say, talk on a phone. One can then see in what vein a remark or claim is being made & assess seriousness in a flippant remark

It is very easy for the written word to be wrongly taken when in fact it may have no nasty undertone at all
 

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I often make a controversial remark just to wind people up...

...That produced a really insulting comment in reply where i was referred to as a moron.

Perhaps the respondent was making a controversial remark just to wind people up.


It is very easy for the written word to be wrongly taken...

Absolutely right. Consequently clarity and a lack of ambiguity are important - unless trying to 'wind people up'.

But it can still be done in a pleasant manner. That's what seems to have been lacking from quite a few Scuttlebutt posts recently.
 

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But lets face it
Some do get a bit more than grumpy
I often wonder what the bloke writing the thread is really like
It is a bit like a bloke my wife dealt with for years on the phone
She always said what a sexy voice he had
When she finally met him he turned out to be a fat middle aged ginger
Totally ruined her dreams!!
 

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But lets face it
Some do get a bit more than grumpy
I often wonder what the bloke writing the thread is really like
It is a bit like a bloke my wife dealt with for years on the phone
She always said what a sexy voice he had
When she finally met him he turned out to be a fat middle aged ginger
Totally ruined her dreams!!

But she married him anyway! :)

Richard

Oh bu**er - beaten to the punch!
 

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In theory It would be helpful if we could see the contributors face when he/she is posting.
I often make a controversial remark just to wind people up - in work & play

Ie I finished a slightly racist post( as a wind up ) on this forum with - "yes i did vote UKIP" Just to suggest a bit of " Alf Garnett" in me & my comment
That produced a really insulting comment in reply where i was referred to as a moron.
Imagine using the same comment in a sailing club with a crowd having a beer & a laugh- The comment -- "Yeah he's a B..y UKIP voter!!!" following the same comment as my post, would probably raise a laugh

In my work, if I am negotiating, I prefer to look people in the eye rather than, say, talk on a phone. One can then see in what vein a remark or claim is being made & assess seriousness in a flippant remark

It is very easy for the written word to be wrongly taken when in fact it may have no nasty undertone at all

Well, it could be that you are using weapons which you do not fully understand how to use, perhaps? As you point out, forums don't have the usual added communication channels such of tone of voice, a view of facial expression of the speaker, and as such the written word is all that there is. But that means extra care should be taken, not less, surely? I agree that it is indeed "easy" for the written word to be taken wrongly, but only in the same way that it's "easy" to fall off a bicycle or accidentally fire a gun or (ooh) dent a boat at close quarters - but these events are most "easy" for the inexperienced and less able. I suppose that if the original poster finds MBC more gentkle and easy going... perhaps they are more careful and/or able with their prose?
 

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The thread started by Babylon, regarding allowing extra time for sailing to windward, is one of many with some unpleasant grumpy responses.

I have been struck by how various threads on the Scuttlebutt forum exhibit apparent short temper and lack of consideration.

In contrast the Motor Boat forum, which I look at occasionally, is more civilised. The PBO forum also seems better tempered.

These observations lead me to conclude that many occupiers of this forum are grumpy old people with little empathy for others.

Or have I been misled by trolls?


Don't worry, it won’t last. A recent survey into cynicism showed that grumpy old men don't live as long as their more tolerant brethren.
 

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Coaster bog off!! Ah just joking: we are not all grumpy. I think your MOBO forum being more civilised is because they are wealthier individuals.

We sailors will struggle from port to port and bulk at expensive marina fees, if we don't have the option for anchoring which of course we always choose in preference.

Mobo's travel in a 1/4 of the time the same distance and arrive usually too early (because they are not 'proper navigators) only becoming grumpy that they have arrived too early for the restaurant which of course is short lived. Sailors never get to the restaurant!!

Anyway, I'm not able to go sailing this weekend because of a f up with the riggers supply chain. I can't even go motor boating until we get part of the rig back. So today I'm grumpy.
 
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