The "Best Way to" . . .

[Searush]

. . . do whatever.

Why do so many people seem to think that there is ONE best way to do anything boaty? There are lots of different ways of doing everything, almost as many ways as there are different boats with different skippers. What suits me on my boat may not work if I sail your boat & may not suit you if you sail my boat.

So please, there is no "Best boat", "best anchor", Best way of mooring, best keel design, best anything really. Just lots of different ways that suit different boats, different people & different situations. Some require money, others require strength or deep water of a marina berth or suit solo skippers, short passages or whatever.


[/rant]

Just neeeded to get that out of my system, so please bear in mind that every answer to your "What Snurble Grip-Thribley is best" will be answered differently by every respondent from their own specific experience & personal preferences. That is why racers argue with cruisers, why coastal family skippers disagree with ocean passage makers & why marina dwellers think differently to swingers on moorings.

Have a nice evening.

 

[daveyw]

I wouldn't start a thread with "the Best way"........ It's much better to start with a question.....!

 

[Searush]

I wouldn't start a thread with "the Best way"........ It's much better to start with a question.....!

Fine, start your own thread in your own way

& thanks for illustrating my rant.

 

[LittleSister]

. . . please bear in mind that every answer to your "What Snurble Grip-Thribley is best" will be answered differently by every respondent from their own specific experience & personal preferences. That is why racers argue with cruisers, why coastal family skippers disagree with ocean passage makers & why marina dwellers think differently to swingers on moorings.

Poppycock, Searush.

Racers argue because they're argumentative. I mean, otherwise why would they race? If you said to another cruiser 'My boat is faster than yours', they'd probably agree with you, and you'd get into a discussion about the comfort and other counter-balancing merits of the slower boat. The racer would have to prove you wrong, even if it took years of practice and thousands of pounds worth of hi-tech wizardry to coax their boat to go a sixteenth of a knot faster than yours. That's how argumentative they are.

Coastal family skippers wouldn't have time to disagree with ocean passage makers, as they're too busy arguing with their spouses and children.

No one talks to ocean passage makers, anyway, they're so far beneath contempt (not to mention out of earshot).

Thus cruisers are clearly the best (though even then there are gradations, some have too many keels and masts, for instance, to be the creme de la creme).

Enough of this egalitarian nonsense! Away with this celebration of diversity! Clearly elitism is best. (How else could you possibly explain that all the most wealthy and powerful people in the world are elitists?)

 

[Stu Jackson]

Thanks for that, I've felt it way too often, too.

Just ask them to ask their mothers: "What's the best girl for me to marry?"

Bet they'd get an earful!

 

[clyst]

I agree Searush ---- but I will say a Rocna is the best anchor though !!

 

[tidclacy]

I agree Searush ---- but I will say a Rocna is the best anchor though !!

+1

 

[Thistle]

Read literally, I tend to agree with Searush. In practice, though, isn't "What's the best ..." simply a shorthand for "I'm looking for advice on [whatever]. What's the best way you good folks have found of doing [whatever] in your particular situation? I'd be glad of a range of suggestions so that I can choose the one that best fits my situation. Many thanks!"

 

[Deleted member 36384]

Ego!

When one is young, the best way is your way, irrespective whether it is the best way or not. As one begins to mature and seek definitive answers to life the best way is the correct way. Once we have matured, one realises that the best way is not necessarily your way or the correct way and the best way may change from day to day. So, there is only one way, and it is always the best way.

 

[Sandyman]

I take your point Searush and can understand your reason for posting.

Lets face it, our world is an alien environment to the newcomer who is eager to learn with the inevitable hope that one day they will skipper their own boat. When they reach this level things change from the concerns of say a deck hand. He is now much more conscious of safety & the security of his boat. He wants to do things right but often has not yet learnt the right, his right, way of doing things and looks to others for guidance. Hence the often what we would consider stupid questions posted.

One thing that grips my s**t, is oh how I wish peeps would learn the terminology.
Peeps calling Heads the toilet. Galley the kitchen. Portholes a window. Stbd the right side. Port the left. Bunk a bed. Cabin a room etc etc...............and that before they start bringing in Yank terminology ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Seajet]

I think what's the best ?' should be answered by ' I recommend this X ' giving reasons why; not 'the best', just 'it works for me'.

It's a sad fact that a lot of people don't seem to read up on the subject nowadays, but expect an instant answer here; which is why I and I suspect others suggest sailing & engine, VHF courses, as one gets the impression some will set off in ignorant bliss if they have the right VHF, anchor etc of the moment...

 

[Deleted member 36384]

..... One thing that grips my s**t, is oh how I wish peeps would learn the terminology.
Peeps calling Heads the toilet. Galley the kitchen. Portholes a window. Stbd the right side. Port the left. Bunk a bed. Cabin a room etc etc...............and that before they start bringing in Yank terminology ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You should be careful around BSAC members when one uses terms such as flippers and goggles; it drives them to apoplexy. Thank goodness for change.

 

[Searush]

Read literally, I tend to agree with Searush. In practice, though, isn't "What's the best ..." simply a shorthand for "I'm looking for advice on [whatever]. What's the best way you good folks have found of doing [whatever] in your particular situation? I'd be glad of a range of suggestions so that I can choose the one that best fits my situation. Many thanks!"

Yes, that's what I think we ought to cultivate. I do this beause . . .

We have so many posters from so many different locations, backgrounds, vessels, even sailing styles, that my answers may be completely unsuitable or the perfect solution.

It's a sad fact that a lot of people don't seem to read up on the subject nowadays, but expect an instant answer here; which is why I and I suspect others suggest sailing & engine, VHF courses, as one gets the impression some will set off in ignorant bliss if they have the right VHF, anchor etc of the moment...

That's what worries me, accepting a majority decision that may well be utterly inappropriate for original poster's situation - simply because poster doesn't understand the issues involved. Which is ofcourse why the questions are often asked in the first place.


Then you get a first poster who perhaps has a lot of experience & we treat them like a novice 'cos it's their first post.

 

[LittleSister]

You should be careful around BSAC members when one uses terms such as flippers and goggles; it drives them to apoplexy.

So what is it, er, best to call, er, flippers and goggles?

 

[Deleted member 36384]

So what is it, er, best to call, er, flippers and goggles?

Mask and fins is the "in" description but I prefer flippers and goggles.

 

[Capt Popeye]

....... was it the 'Best Way' of putting it though ?

 

[capnsensible]

Best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs6WTt7atic

 

[Ripster]

. . . do whatever.

Why do so many people seem to think that there is ONE best way to do anything boaty? There are lots of different ways of doing everything, almost as many ways as there are different boats with different skippers. What suits me on my boat may not work if I sail your boat & may not suit you if you sail my boat.

So please, there is no "Best boat", "best anchor", Best way of mooring, best keel design, best anything really. Just lots of different ways that suit different boats, different people & different situations. Some require money, others require strength or deep water of a marina berth or suit solo skippers, short passages or whatever.


[/rant]

Just neeeded to get that out of my system, so please bear in mind that every answer to your "What Snurble Grip-Thribley is best" will be answered differently by every respondent from their own specific experience & personal preferences. That is why racers argue with cruisers, why coastal family skippers disagree with ocean passage makers & why marina dwellers think differently to swingers on moorings.

Have a nice evening.

So if I want some advice on something then I must be sure to say "what is a good way to"

Based on your advice I will disregard everything I have been taught about "best practice" then as clearly there isn't any...

 

[Seajet]

Mask and fins is the "in" description but I prefer flippers and goggles.

Try strolling into a SBS mess and talking about 'flippers'...it may get almost the same response as visiting the SAS and saying " I thought only fairies had wings "...

 

[Deleted member 36384]

Try strolling into a SBS mess and talking about 'flippers'...it may get almost the same response as visiting the SAS and saying " I thought only fairies had wings "...

if the terms are good enough for jacque cousteau then they are good enough for me!

JACQUES COUSTEAU Divers Fin Flippers 1963 Patent_S196 (http://www.patentplaceusa.com/servlet/the-27162/JACQUES-COUSTEAU-Divers-Fin/Detail)

Patent for:

JACQUES COUSTEAU Divers Fin Flippers 1963 Patent_S196 ....

The SBS Frogmen are defacto flippers.