LadyInBed
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I don't have one ?
The best fender knot
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TiggerToo
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each to their own... that is one of the reasons I quite like the slots in my toerails. (Actually, the only thing I like about TT's toerails which, otherwise, are a pain in the proverbial)
Refueler
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If the fenders are suitable diameter - they should be well proud of hull fittings / sides etc and placement as long as along the body should suffice within large margin ... so find it hard to understand the 'exactness' of placing ... height - yes .. but longitudinally ?
LadyInBed
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Radius of beam requires three fenders to be spaced quite close* together midship.
Properly tied mooring lines means that fenders forward of the main mast and aft of the centre cockpit are superfluous.
*Edit: Define 'quite close' - about a meter or just over.
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Refueler
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mmm .. in my mind - if the boat is so secure it cannot range a small amount or move in / out at ends ... then she's moorings are too tight.
As we actually know each other from long ago and I know your boat ... I understand your beam comment ... but still suggest that I see no real reason against my post comment. If the midships fender is doing its job .. and the others can be placed at reasonable distance even though may not touch at all times ... cannot see the problem. If its such a worry - then place larger diameter either side and lesser at midship.
You know my boat is not as large as yours nor as beamy ... but I have large diameter fore and aft - with less diameter for midships - still more than enough for the job.
I get feeling - not your posts ! - that some people are posting just to justify own bias and not as actual experience ...
john_morris_uk
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I’ve no idea about other peoples boats or where they feel the need to put their fenders but our requirements are quite straightforward.
Once the boat is alongside three fenders at the fattest part are adequate.
While coming alongside an extra fender fore and aft helps in case the boat slews as lines are put ashore. Unfortunately there aren’t enough stanchions in the right places to tie them to.
Once the boat is alongside three fenders at the fattest part are adequate.
While coming alongside an extra fender fore and aft helps in case the boat slews as lines are put ashore. Unfortunately there aren’t enough stanchions in the right places to tie them to.
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Hydrozoan
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If the boat is ‘in’ over winter, I add a couple of fenders between the centre three - but to extend the vertical coverage, having seen how very strong gusts can come close to putting the toerail under the finger pontoon.
Refueler
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3 midship fenders ....
Me - its 2 fenders - 1 either side of max beam and then a fender further along to look after any ranging of boot alongside at ends.
All 4 fenders are on guradline at first coming alongside as a quickie ... once alongside - they are transferred to strong points ... the 2 midships jobbies go to the U bolt 'chainplates' ... the aft goes to the spare cleat on cockpit coaming .... the forward to the stanchion base just back from mooring cleat. The only adjustment for any dock / berth I have used ... low ... high ... long ... short ... has been to height of fender ..... never had to really change horizontally ...
I have a 6m personal pontoon at home and it will be setup ... my boat 8m will have the above arrangement still. The 2 midships fenders will be less diameter so that greater diameter fore / aft fenders actually then do some work !! The boat will be moored in the river flow on outside of river bend ... so will be subject to significant wind and flow at times ...
Me - its 2 fenders - 1 either side of max beam and then a fender further along to look after any ranging of boot alongside at ends.
All 4 fenders are on guradline at first coming alongside as a quickie ... once alongside - they are transferred to strong points ... the 2 midships jobbies go to the U bolt 'chainplates' ... the aft goes to the spare cleat on cockpit coaming .... the forward to the stanchion base just back from mooring cleat. The only adjustment for any dock / berth I have used ... low ... high ... long ... short ... has been to height of fender ..... never had to really change horizontally ...
I have a 6m personal pontoon at home and it will be setup ... my boat 8m will have the above arrangement still. The 2 midships fenders will be less diameter so that greater diameter fore / aft fenders actually then do some work !! The boat will be moored in the river flow on outside of river bend ... so will be subject to significant wind and flow at times ...
Stemar
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Why not use pontoon fenders? That way, you'd have one less thing to deal with when coming in.
WoodyP
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Why do pontoon manufacturers often put hard sharp angle iron projections at the ends of the pontoon. Any errors and you're looking at repairs that could have been avoided by a more sympathetic design.
I of course never screw up entering a berth, I'm just thinking of others ?
I of course never screw up entering a berth, I'm just thinking of others ?
Stemar
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Screwing up entering a berth is like going aground. There are those who've done it and liars.
Plus, a very small number who've been lucky so far...
Refueler
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True as back-up if my fenders ride up .... but have you seen the crazy pricing for dock fendering ?
LadyInBed
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Refueler
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If you check the thread - you will see I have posted in it ...
I'm still trying to figure out what to use ... at present top slot is going to old fenders strung in a line with holding points to pontoon via the end eyes
Stemar
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That would be my favourite. Look around earlier in this thread where folk are advocating clove hitches to attach fenders and you may well find a few free ones...
Refueler
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?? Funny - 'cause - I am an advocate of the Clove Hitch and locking half hitch after .... NEVER lost one like that yet ... in fact cannot remember losing one with just a clove hitch ...
Daydream believer
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So do I. ( Lines as well) but what height? Low for a pontoon, or higher for coming alongside another boat?
Stemar
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If your fenders are big enough, they'll do both jobs, at least well enough to get alongside. One of the advantages of a small boat
Snowgoose-1
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I have sewn a stitch or two of coloured twine esired height on fender rope .If your fenders are big enough, they'll do both jobs, at least well enough to get alongside. One of the advantages of a small boat
Refueler
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If your fenders are big enough, they'll do both jobs, at least well enough to get alongside. One of the advantages of a small boat
Ditto !
My fenders are actually oversize for my boat and I can set them near enough to waterline at the bottom and still have enough top to cater for most docks / pontoons ... but I also have reasonably vertical sides unlike some newer boats with some real tumblehome !