Thank St Greta for saving us

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Ohlin Karcher said:
Holly Cova, official spokeswoman for team Malizia, has told the press that a minimum of two crew will be flown out for the return trip. She concedes that it isn't an 'optimal solution' ... and actually admits that zero carbon ocean crossings are technically impossible.
That's at least 2 sailors being flown out, but.. no mention by Holly of the hundreds of PR people, world press crews and their entourages, throngs of gullible climate activists, not to mention shady representatives of transnational energy consortiums and their staff, plus the politicians of all shades ( but especially ultra-radical green marxists) and their various press people, security staff, it goes on and on.. the whole absurd circus must have the carbon footprint of a F1 Grand Prix race!
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Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and provide us with some links that prove that we do not have a problem with the climate? I am asking for links from genuine, peer reviewed scientific articles, carried out by REAL scientists, using REAL data and published in reputable scientific journals. Don't bother sending nonsense from deluded idiots such as James Dellingpole or Lawson etc, and don't bother trying to claim that 'all these scientists are in on the hoax' This is just bull-shit and you know it. The science is clear, and has been for many years, it's just that it doesn't suit your particular set of prejudices. You are a real deluded fool
 
steve1963 said:
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and provide us with some links that prove that we do not have a problem with the climate? I am asking for links from genuine, peer reviewed scientific articles, carried out by REAL scientists, using REAL data and published in reputable scientific journals. Don't bother sending nonsense from deluded idiots such as James Dellingpole or Lawson etc, and don't bother trying to claim that 'all these scientists are in on the hoax' This is just bull-shit and you know it. The science is clear, and has been for many years, it's just that it doesn't suit your particular set of prejudices. You are a real deluded fool
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Fools are relatively harmless when they just sound off on web forums, but dangerous when they are shamelessly used by charlatans to get into power.
 
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Minn said:
As one of «*them*» I’m happy to tell you that as of the first of January next year «*they*» will either burn low sulphur fuel oil or «*they*» will indeed «*have some form of filter system in the funnels to remove it*».
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I remember reading about this but can't remember the figures. You'll be able to comment I'm sure - isn't the new 'low sulphur' fuel oil still about 10 x as sulphury (I think I've just invented a word...) as diesel?

IIRC it was theorised that the move to lower sulphur fuel oil is a step in the right direction, but won't have the immediate and noticeable impact that people are hoping for.
 
Balbas said:
I remember reading about this but can't remember the figures. You'll be able to comment I'm sure - isn't the new 'low sulphur' fuel oil still about 10 x as sulphury (I think I've just invented a word...) as diesel?

IIRC it was theorised that the move to lower sulphur fuel oil is a step in the right direction, but won't have the immediate and noticeable impact that people are hoping for.
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The link I posted in #12 says sulfur content will be cut from 3.5 to 0.5%, which if I remember correctly was what we all burnt before the universal introduction of ULSD. So you are correct, about 10 times the content of road fuel.
 
Whether you have a good understanding or not of climate change, you have to agree that the transatlantic stunt has increased public awareness of the biggest problem facing mankind. It could have backfired although the choice of boat minimised that risk. Some of the studies being undertaken do look odd and should be questioned. Regrettably, they provide material for the deniers to capitalise on so deflecting public opinion from the main issue. That is the basic fact that man is having an effect on climate with the potential to cause immense harm to future generations. Those who try to argue otherwise have their heads in the sand. As it becomes warmer, they will find it increasingly uncomfortable.

The title of this thread is rather silly. If the intention is to discuss climate change then the thread should be transferred to the Climate Change forum.
 
franksingleton said:
Whether you have a good understanding or not of climate change, you have to agree that the transatlantic stunt has increased public awareness of the biggest problem facing mankind. It could have backfired although the choice of boat minimised that risk. Some of the studies being undertaken do look odd and should be questioned. Regrettably, they provide material for the deniers to capitalise on so deflecting public opinion from the main issue. That is the basic fact that man is having an effect on climate with the potential to cause immense harm to future generations. Those who try to argue otherwise have their heads in the sand. As it becomes warmer, they will find it increasingly uncomfortable.

The title of this thread is rather silly. If the intention is to discuss climate change then the thread should be transferred to the Climate Change forum.
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Might have increased awareness on this forum, because she is on a boat, but doubt anyone on the Clapham omnibus is the slightest bit interested.
 
scotty123 said:
Might have increased awareness on this forum, because she is on a boat, but doubt anyone on the Clapham omnibus is the slightest bit interested.
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Funny you say that, it's front page news on the BBC and lots of my non sailing friends seem to be following it.
 
The elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about, is the ever increasing population. Unless and until that is addressed, we're doomed, a tell ye we're a' doomed. :rolleyes:
 
What is St Greta doing about the fires in the Amazon?


We in Europe are already well aware of the effects of climate change.. She is campaigning in the wrong place. and telling the wrong people to panic.
 
Tomahawk said:
What is St Greta doing about the fires in the Amazon?


We in Europe are already well aware of the effects of climate change.. She is campaigning in the wrong place. and telling the wrong people to panic.
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Im afraid its the old gits that are way outta step as typified by comments like that. And, looking at other posters, you are not alone. But you are in a dwindling minority.

The impact on the young generation, who lets face it, have got to clean the mess up, is huge. Thats the audience, my old whinger. As Ive said over and again, drag yo asss over to facebook, instagram, twitter. You can read all about Team Malizias science programme, the tweets about the Amazon fires, plus everything you moan about.

Its one thing to be under informed. At least demonstrating that in public allows others to publicise where you can find out what happens in the real world.

And I bet you can get 4g on the Clapham Omnibus........:rolleyes:
 
At least those of the older generation know better than to expose themselves to 3 of the most pernicious and invasive platforms known to mankind. (Intentionally not pc):wink-new:
 
Achosenman said:
At least those of the older generation know better than to expose themselves to 3 of the most pernicious and invasive platforms known to mankind. (Intentionally not pc):wink-new:
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Absolutely fine. But dont grizzle when you get left behind by the overwhelming majority! :encouragement:
 
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