Tender Towing

Iliade

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Just in case anyone else is ever tempted to do so...

I towed my Jeanneau Newmatic 360, one of the ubiquitous orange safety boats, on the summer cruise. Never again!

Despite appearances, it is too wet for comfortable use in any sort of large ripples. It was ok for wet suited people being dragged about behind on a surfboard but dreadful for the morning shopping run except within very sheltered waters.

The shape of the coaming at the bow has a lot to do with this, forming a very effective water scoop. Consequently, when being towed in larger waves and swell on a long line it shears about crazily, surfing past the mother ship and eventually dipping the bows under and duck diving. Because mine has a 1" hole inside the stbd. front corner it is not sensible to tow with the bung removed as the inner hull will eventually fill with water, which it does most successfully when the boat duck dives...

If on a short line it doesn't dive, but instead rams the mothership. Twice, both times at night, I had to winch the bows up the pushpit to recover the semi-submerged boat, empty the water out, then pad the transom with all of my fenders to prevent further sinking of either the dinghy or Sevenem. All this fun has cost me a boarding ladder and a slightly misshapen pushpit.

Unfortunately it is too big to get on deck but does behave a little better with the motor fitted and down, but that is not sensible for longer passages lest the whole lot goes down.

So, what recommendations does the forum have for a tender which can transport four people in safety in a seaway, tow a wakeboarder with just a 20hp 2T Mariner military motor (very light) and sit on the deck of a Centaur? I have a Wetline inflatable of about 3m but it cannot handle the hp and also is very wet in waves.

I do have fond memories of my Avon S250 being all that I desire, but this may just be the fog of time. Not to mention that four adult sized people have to fit onboard.
 
How about tying to the right side on? Are they heavy to manouvre? I've always used inflatables which tow ok as they sit high in the water.
 
bloomin heck

that is one heck of a thing to tow

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this is my first summer towing a rigid dinghy

delighted with the way it has gone

mind you it is a small dinghy with a good skeg and deep forefoot

so far it has handled everything neptune has thrown at us



not keen to go back to flubber
 
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So, what recommendations does the forum have for a tender which can transport four people in safety in a seaway, tow a wakeboarder with just a 20hp 2T Mariner military motor (very light) and sit on the deck of a Centaur? I have a Wetline inflatable of about 3m but it cannot handle the hp and also is very wet in waves.

I do have fond memories of my Avon S250 being all that I desire, but this may just be the fog of time. Not to mention that four adult sized people have to fit onboard.

Afraid you just have unreasonable expectations as to what is possible. Just getting a tender that will take 4 adults and fit on a Centaur is a challenge - never mind one capable of taking a 20hp outboard! That would be a challenge on a boat twice the size of your boat.

A 2.9m inflatable will just about take 4 small people, 3.1 is better. However, max hp is normally 10. However, they are big, heavy and would not stow on board. Possible to tow in flat conditions, but would be difficult on a long passage as the weight and drag would slow you down, particularly if you left the outboard on.
 
One option is a Ceasar catamaran in that it does dissasemble, will take 20hp and support 4 adults, just won't be cheap.

I think you might be better off with a cheap Avon supersport or Zodiac Grand Raid, diving club had one years ago and it was a brilliant bit of kit.

Pete
 
Wow, that thing looks like ... a contraption! We have an Alu AB 295 with double bottom and BIG tubes. Add a 15 HP Yamaha 2 stroke and SWMBO can waterski behind it. :-)
 
How about tying to the right side on? Are they heavy to manouvre? I've always used inflatables which tow ok as they sit high in the water.
I do breast tow from time to time, but it is not safe in a seaway when the mothership is rolling and threatening to broach. Also the fenders pop out and the paint gets scraped off (guess how I know?)

The 360 is simply too big to stow onboard, but more to the point, too wet anyway.
 
This is the third time I have tried to type this reply and lost the lot! Third time lucky...

At the time I bought the 360 I nearly bought a Zapcat but decided that the 360 would better survive being dragged up the sharp beaches we visit. I may have to review this...

The Avons and Zodiacs do appear and I see that the Grande Raid may even fit in a quarter berth and certainly in the forepeak. It's just that the new prices are prohibitive so I will have to keep my ear to the ground for a good used one. How dry are they though?

I have not been able to find the Alu AB 295 online, Please can you enlighten me?
 
At the time I bought the 360 I nearly bought a Zapcat but decided that the 360 would better survive being dragged up the sharp beaches we visit. I may have to review this...

My colleagues and I are considering selling The Contraption (sans engine but including combi-trailer):

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There's not much of it in the water when unloaded (nor when loaded and at speed, for that matter):

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Still not sure I'd want to tow it behind a Centaur, though.

Pete
 
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