Tender for Yachts below 50ft. Designing a new concept!

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Dear (future) Boat owner, -Specialist, -Broker, -Enthusiast,

I am a Belgian Master student Industrial Product Development at University of Antwerp and more importantly, a boat enthusiast as well.
I recently started my Master thesis concerning the development of a new concept tender/dinghy for Yachts below 50 ft.

To become a useful design solution it is most important for me to get an accurate understanding and image of the existing use, market, users and problems of the tender/dinghy as they are today.

This vital image can only be drawn with your input.
Therefore, I sincerely count on lots of boating enthusiasm and ask you to spend a few minutes of your time to fill in this form by clicking the link below.
Thanks in advance!

Hope to meet you soon on the water,
Sincerely,


Michiel Vermeylen

master student
Integrated Product Development
University of Antwerp
Belgium


https://qtrial2014az1.az1.qualtrics....n6GXEdeFupxQTr
 
I did it, but it is yet another survey with lots of things assumed by the questioner and badly drafted/ not pilot tested questions. Ho hum.
 
jfm said:
I did it, but it is yet another survey with lots of things assumed by the questioner and badly drafted/ not pilot tested questions. Ho hum.
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Give him a break. He's only a Masters student. Just think how bad it would have been if he had been an undergrad;) The really scary thing is that a tutor has probably looked at that and signed it off
Still FWIW I've filled it in
 
The tender idea is just the decoy posed by this Social Psychology student. It's posted on two forums and is actually a comparative survey of the forum comments to test the thesis that Stinkies are kinder to students than Raggies.
 
Deleted User said:
Give him a break. He's only a Masters student. Just think how bad it would have been if he had been an undergrad;) The really scary thing is that a tutor has probably looked at that and signed it off
Still FWIW I've filled it in
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:D I've filled it in too. But I had no clue how to answer "How often do you use your tender? An average X% of my boating time".

Well it can't be 100% can it, else I might as well sell the zero% used mother ship which would by definition be going nowhere and serving as a rather fancy pair of chocks costing a million pounds each. Maybe it means that on (say) 60% of my boating trips, I use the tender and on the other (say) 40% of my trips the tender is never used. But in that case, what is being averaged?

And if the survey produces an average answer to this question of 30% versus say 60%, how will the design of the tender change?

Maybe if we all say we only do short trips the new design concept will be acrylic sheets mounted on stilts to the seabed just below the water surface, like Dynamo :)
 
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RupertW said:
The tender idea is just the decoy posed by this Social Psychology student. It's posted on two forums and is actually a comparative survey of the forum comments to test the thesis that Stinkies are kinder to students than Raggies.
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:D:D I filled it in as well. I quite like the Qualtrics presentation though, it's nicer than SurveyMonkey. (My responses won't be much use to him, I don't use my tender much, but I am completely satisfied with it...)
 
Nigelpickin said:
Done, not sure why the op is getting criticism for his efforts though. It's a tough crowd here sometimes...

Reading the thread title I'm not sure that I would have contributed were my boat over 50'.....
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"Tough" is in the eye of the beholder. I would describe it as constructive comment with nothing personal aimed at OP. People can choose to think the survey contains some mixed up thinking while writing "lovely survey thanks" , or they can just talk straight. I'm firmly in the latter camp but anyone who wants to be in the former camp can equally make that choice.

Jimmy I agree on the Qualtrics. Haven't seen that one before
 
Deleted User said:
Give him a break. He's only a Masters student. Just think how bad it would have been if he had been an undergrad;) The really scary thing is that a tutor has probably looked at that and signed it off
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+1

I always check questionnaires posted, guess it's a leftover from my questionnaires during my PhD 20odd years ago...

jfm said:
:D I've filled it in too. But I had no clue how to answer "How often do you use your tender? An average X% of my boating time".
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yes, this Q killed me tbh.

SEARANGER ANCASTER said:
I just completed it too so I am awaiting the solution to my needs for a 3.4m 3 person rib with min 15hp 4 stroke engine , 2 man jockey/centre console , electric start and all under what my passarrelle/davits are rated to (150kg) !!!
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when you do find one let me know plz as I want a 3.2m version of it :p

jimmy_the_builder said:
:D:D I filled it in as well. I quite like the Qualtrics presentation though, it's nicer than SurveyMonkey.
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+1 wonder what's the catch and 99% of surveys posted by students are using the SM. Not too keen on having each Q on a page though, would prefer longer pages with more Qs that you can scroll up and down and then complete as a set.


Michiel,

I guess you're just picking up some data and trying to find an area to focus on.
You soon going to decide if you're aiming at a foldable, a lightweight rib or some sort of transformable thing (which by definition wont be light which is unfortunately something everyone wants...).
You also got to make up your mind on canal/lake or rough(er) sea use, cold or warm waters, all year round, summer only, strong sun and high uv or moderate, etc.
Not too sure that the replies you'll get are going to be demographically representative (of what???) to base anything on them.

I'd suggest that you just make up your mind and go ahead. Then by all means come back to us with clear cut questions. Don't forget that you're never going to satisfy everyone, and IMHO you're much better off getting focused SOON and utilizing your available time designing and not discussing what/when/where. Design feedback is the stage that the potential of this forum is nothing sort of amazing.

Without wanting to be too rude and agreeing with Deleted User, cross check/get a second/change your supervisor ;) (if s/he did check and approve the questionnaire that is!)

cheers

V.
 
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Originally Posted by SEARANGER ANCASTER
I just completed it too so I am awaiting the solution to my needs for a 3.4m 3 person rib with min 15hp 4 stroke engine , 2 man jockey/centre console , electric start and all under what my passarrelle/davits are rated to (150kg) !!!



when you do find one let me know plz as I want a 3.2m version of it
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98kg alloy hull; has done the around Ireland race.

.....the older xpro version was 3.2 mtrs (2012 I think).

http://www.seaswift.co.uk/om350.html
 
SEARANGER ANCASTER said:
I just completed it too so I am awaiting the solution to my needs for a 3.4m 3 person rib with min 15hp 4 stroke engine , 2 man jockey/centre console , electric start and all under what my passarrelle/davits are rated to (150kg) !!!
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That shouldn't be too difficult to find I think. My Zodiac 3.4m rib (340R) weighs about 75 kgs, the jockey console about 15 kgs, Honda 20 hp 4 stroke weighs about 45 kgs, leaving you 15 kgs for rigging, fuel and battery.
 
jfm said:
"Tough" is in the eye of the beholder. I would describe it as constructive comment with nothing personal aimed at OP. People can choose to think the survey contains some mixed up thinking while writing "lovely survey thanks" , or they can just talk straight. I'm firmly in the latter camp but anyone who wants to be in the former camp can equally make that choice.

Jimmy I agree on the Qualtrics. Haven't seen that one before
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Contructive coments are by definition ones designed to build things up, not break them down. They let the recpient know that you are on their side and can be delivered without having to pull any punches. So for example, 'Michiel has set out his objectives clearly and compiled some well structured, sequentially logical questions. While the survey requires a good mix of fixed and open responses, there are some sections which, as a respondant, I found a little frustrating; not least question x for reason y. Maybe a better way to ask this question would be.....'

I agree, straight talk is perfectly fine, but in this case its uncomfortably juxtaposed with the term constuctive....
 
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