Tender Carrying.. (No Davits)

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Hi all,

I've a Trader 47 but without the hanging davits on the back and I have a fairly recently acquired Avon 315 inflatable (with the inflatable keel) and a 9.9hp 2-stroke outboard..
I'm off on a trip in a couple of weeks and am deliberating how to carry the tender. I could take the outboard off and roll the dinghy up but though the 9.9 isn't a monster weight it's tricky to get back on with the dinghy floating behind the boat (as it will be at anchor). I did think about a couple of lengths of hardwood bolted through the bathing platform so the dinghy could sit on top fully inflated (the bathing platform isn't deep enough with the steps etc on it to support the dinghy on its own).

Or perhaps a 3rd option..


It's certainly nothing like as heavy as a RIB so that helps.

Any thoughts?
 
Pull the @rse end of the dinghy onto your bathing platform and rig a pulley [on a high point in your cockpit area ] to pull the nose up clear of the water, then lock off.

Cost 7.24 GBP.

Silverline 180kg Cable Pulley Set 633957 5024763029134 | eBay

Depending on your swim platform/dinghy dimensions you may/should be able to keep the engine on [tilted of course].

Goes something like this:

5s -20s

 
LBRodders said:
Pull the @rse end of the dinghy onto your bathing platform and rig a pulley [on a high point in your cockpit area ] to pull the nose up clear of the water, then lock off.

Cost 7.24 GBP.

Silverline 180kg Cable Pulley Set 633957 5024763029134 | eBay

Depending on your swim platform/dinghy dimensions you may/should be able to keep the engine on [tilted of course].

Goes something like this:

5s -20s

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I'll have a look into this one.. Thanks..
 
Davits the "Med "dream!
After inventing outdrives somebody decided that the boat world need more problems and invented davits.
Wander down any pontoon in any marina and marvel at the sheer numbers of half deflated inflatables forlornly dangling from bent davits on semi jambed tangled stainless steel wire.
A great idea when shiney and new and you with all those dreams of mooring offshore on hot sunny days and rowing ashore to that deserted beach bar.
The real world.ie in the British Isles.
Nobody in the UK ever has the bottle to leave their pride and joy anchored in any bay and then go ashore to spend the next hour (probably even not that long) constantly worried about if the boat will still be there on your return.Even if you can see it from the shore,
Everybody only ever marina hops nowadays and mooring with those sharp pointy bits out the back is pain.
Marinas always charge extra for the infernal things, be it your home mooring or on a visitor berth.
You will need a stinky leaky outboard of some description, which will never start when you actually need it and will need storing somewhere, plus you will have to buy some outrageously overpriced cover to stop the sun making the inflatable either stained from rain or sun bleached depending on the weather.
Eventually it will not get used because it takes longer to unpack and uncover the thing ,than the time you will actually spend ashore.

If against all commonsense and logic you do decide to add weight where you least want it on a boat (right at the back) get snap davits.
OGs first job was to remove the (bent ) davits from his old boat. :)....and good riddance . :)
 
Fire99 said:
Hi all,

I've a Trader 47 but without the hanging davits on the back and I have a fairly recently acquired Avon 315 inflatable (with the inflatable keel) and a 9.9hp 2-stroke outboard..
I'm off on a trip in a couple of weeks and am deliberating how to carry the tender. I could take the outboard off and roll the dinghy up but though the 9.9 isn't a monster weight it's tricky to get back on with the dinghy floating behind the boat (as it will be at anchor). I did think about a couple of lengths of hardwood bolted through the bathing platform so the dinghy could sit on top fully inflated (the bathing platform isn't deep enough with the steps etc on it to support the dinghy on its own).

Or perhaps a 3rd option..


It's certainly nothing like as heavy as a RIB so that helps.

Any thoughts?
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Maybe thirty or forty years ago I read a book about crusing somewhere, and the phrase is still in my mind...."Real men tow tenders" - well I dont I have these ugly davids sticking out, and they are fine to keep the boat but not almost dangerous to use in a swell when you want to get the dinghy back .... What about Swivel Davit system for the future, and if time is too short for any installation honestly think about towing the dingly. All you have to do is to find the best length of towline and the dinghy is safe - usually so that the dinghy is planing on your boats wave (offset from the middle!)
 
I'm with a couple of the other guys in that make it simpler. Buy a tidy S/H smaller and lighter engine - 4hp 2stroke or similar that you can lift on and off easily but still with a bit of oomph.
I have a 2.6m inflatable and a Yamaha 2.5 4stroke. I take the engine off - but clip a rope to it first. I have tied a rope midway along the side of the tender on each side, I pop the nearside tube onto the swim platform and then haul the other side up and over until it rests against the transom, the bottom rope holds that tube in and the top one the upper tube. travels very well like that and cheap and simple.
That said, I will probably fit snap davits this winter.
 
Thanks guys for your input.. I bought the 9.9hp 2-stroke to be honest because it was the max hp the little Avon could take (I ride motorbike so like a bit of pace) and I could lift the engine single handed (just about) but in hindsight a smaller outboard would have saved me a lot of hassle. haha

I like Davits but I hate Davits. (the metal ones). They are flippin ugly if I'm honest and can easily spoil the lines of the boat. Not to mention add a bucket of weight to the stern of the boat. My outboard and dinghy combined (air keel) are only about 55kg so the davits would probably weigh more than the tender. I'll have a bit of a ponder and see what I can make work and report back.
 
oldgit said:
Davits the "Med "dream!
After inventing outdrives somebody decided that the boat world need more problems and invented davits.
Wander down any pontoon in any marina and marvel at the sheer numbers of half deflated inflatables forlornly dangling from bent davits on semi jambed tangled stainless steel wire.
A great idea when shiney and new and you with all those dreams of mooring offshore on hot sunny days and rowing ashore to that deserted beach bar.
The real world.ie in the British Isles.
Nobody in the UK ever has the bottle to leave their pride and joy anchored in any bay and then go ashore to spend the next hour (probably even not that long) constantly worried about if the boat will still be there on your return.Even if you can see it from the shore,
Everybody only ever marina hops nowadays and mooring with those sharp pointy bits out the back is pain.
Marinas always charge extra for the infernal things, be it your home mooring or on a visitor berth.
You will need a stinky leaky outboard of some description, which will never start when you actually need it and will need storing somewhere, plus you will have to buy some outrageously overpriced cover to stop the sun making the inflatable either stained from rain or sun bleached depending on the weather.
Eventually it will not get used because it takes longer to unpack and uncover the thing ,than the time you will actually spend ashore.

If against all commonsense and logic you do decide to add weight where you least want it on a boat (right at the back) get snap davits.
OGs first job was to remove the (bent ) davits from his old boat. :)....and good riddance . :)
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I'm a fairly young-ish guy but I'm old school. I like to anchor somewhere nice and dinghy to shore. Marinas (even though my boat lives in one) are floating housing estates in my eyes.. (Perhaps a little harsh).
 
I think that davits are just fine on the right boat, even in the U.K. ?

Our Broom 41 had the pads / bases so I managed to get a pair of Simpson 150kg davits as we wanted to carry a reasonably sized RIB with a decent outboard that we didn’t have to remove. We started with a used package of an Avon 3 metre RIB with GRP hull and 10hp Yamaha outboard that turned out to be a bit of a lemon - sold a pup as they say but you live and learn. We then got a new AB aluminium hulled 3.1 metre RIB with a Mercury 2 stroke 10 hp outboard and it was a great set up. Loved the RIB and used it a lot, often for just messing around or exploring when we were away cruising. All part of the boating experience IMHO.

We have snap davits with a lightweight 3D dinghy and a Mercury 2 stroke 3.3hp outboard on the Hardy that we remove and stow on a pad on the transom guardrails. Works just fine but not a patch on the set up that we had on the Broom.

I think that davits could be a good solution for Fire99's Trader

Here is the Broom


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Greg2 said:
I think that davits are just fine on the right boat, even in the U.K. ?

Our Broom 41 had the pads / bases so I managed to get a pair of Simpson 150kg davits as we wanted to carry a reasonably sized RIB with a decent outboard that we didn’t have to remove. We started with a used package of an Avon 3 metre RIB with GRP hull and 10hp Yamaha outboard that turned out to be a bit of a lemon - sold a pup as they say but you live and learn. We then got a new AB aluminium hulled 3.1 metre RIB with a Mercury 2 stroke 10 hp outboard and it was a great set up. Loved the RIB and used it a lot, often for just messing around or exploring when we were away cruising. All part of the boating experience IMHO.

We have snap davits with a lightweight 3D dinghy and a Mercury 2 stroke 3.3hp outboard on the Hardy that we remove and stow on a pad on the transom guardrails. Works just fine but not a patch on the set up that we had on the Broom.

I think that davits could be a good solution for Fire99's Trader

Here is the Broom


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Thanks Greg. I admit they look well on your Broom.
 
I love the freedom of a tender. On a river pontoon or mooring (locally to me Salcombe, Fowey, Yealm), I love pottering ashore for a paper or a pint. River taxis are fine, but the tender is fun! At an anchorage on a good weather day I can often be found on the beach, walking the dog or having (another) pint.

I’ve never owned a big enough boat for ‘proper’ davits, but find snap davits really easy and a brilliant way of securing a tender when underway. However, if you clear the space, I have seen plenty of tenders simply lashed onto the bathing platform (i.e. laying on its side against the transom and secured with spare lines). Perfectly adequate for a short hop/temporary solution I would have thought.
 
Bowlerhat said:
I love the freedom of a tender. On a river pontoon or mooring (locally to me Salcombe, Fowey, Yealm), I love pottering ashore for a paper or a pint. River taxis are fine, but the tender is fun! At an anchorage on a good weather day I can often be found on the beach, walking the dog or having (another) pint.

I’ve never owned a big enough boat for ‘proper’ davits, but find snap davits really easy and a brilliant way of securing a tender when underway. However, if you clear the space, I have seen plenty of tenders simply lashed onto the bathing platform (i.e. laying on its side against the transom and secured with spare lines). Perfectly adequate for a short hop/temporary solution I would have thought.
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Thanks.. That's pretty much my line of thinking too. I like having a tender so I'm not restricted by marinas or some form of public service. It's nice to get away to parts less travelled.
Snap Davits do seem a handy option. I've just not quite worked out what i'm going to do with my 10hp (9.9) 2-stroke outboard. Maybe I can lash that to the bathing platform somewhere too. Poor thing.
 
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