Bouba
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Mapis, we are not outing him we are asking him
Cruise Reports Taking our yacht to Sweden for the summer - any 50m marinas?
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Capital_R
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Well, aren't I off to a fine start!
First post, and I'm a 'clunky nut job troll'!!
I hope you're all not right about that...!!
Happy Friday - I'm sure I'll have more questions through time... it's kind of surreal to ask them here - but you're all an interesting reality check!
First post, and I'm a 'clunky nut job troll'!!
I hope you're all not right about that...!!
Happy Friday - I'm sure I'll have more questions through time... it's kind of surreal to ask them here - but you're all an interesting reality check!
vas
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ts ts ts,
look at what you've done now, you really only want to read a/f and teak cleaning threads at this time of the year, eh?
V.
look at what you've done now, you really only want to read a/f and teak cleaning threads at this time of the year, eh?
V.
Capital_R
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Lols. Yes. I'm being a wee bit vague - as this is the internet... and i was getting sick of scrolling through lists of marinas in Sweden. Then ended up over sharing.
I'm keen to see the RIB numbers in reality. I'm feeling a bit pissy about that if I don't get my 1000 mile range. One detail of many. And yes... of you have a boat project like this... it means your life projects are several orders of magnitude more severe... I would love this to be the only thing I'm working on - but I refuse to "give it up" and hand the whole experience over to a yacht management team - even if that's sensible. It's not why I wanted a boat.
Capital_R
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Thanks Bouba;
Thanks. I'm pretty easy to find if you google. But don't want to be linked to a forum where any-one can Google me and then link it so easily.
Else I would have used my real name.
If you do find me... please just keep it to yourself. There aren't many avenues of my life where I can just come to a forum and shoot the breeze about sh*t I like.
Mr Googler
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Well, if I'm wrong I apologise and wish you well with your project. Look forward to all the in build pictures!!
Bouba
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Don't worry about it.
Next time just tell people that you've bought a Benneteau, that way not only will they not be suspicious but they probably won't even talk to you:encouragement:
Capital_R
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Fair. Here's a pic of a sail boat. With me on it.
lambohill
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Fair enough. Thats all the evidence we need. :encouragement:
Job Done!
Moving on from the obvious "par'teee...!" being had on that boat, lets see more pics of the new vessels please...
really interested in the mother ship you intend to chase.
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Capital_R
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To anonymously shoot the breeze.. .
I looked really closely at restoring the Williamsburg 2 years ago. Had color photos of finding up and eberything. 74m with two x 100 tonne 1100hp (each!!) 1930s original diesels.
Went to the yards in La Sptzia and went aboard. But couldn't quite get my head around the rebuild. Very nearly paid the deposit anyway. But thought it was going to be a never ending distraction from work.
We had a whole bunch of architects and designers and restoration experts look at it.
If I could free up the funds and time (without detracting from my work)... that would probably be my next project.
Capital_R
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Capital_R
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Okay. New Question team.
Based on one day Wanting to fill up with fuel, where's the best place to get diesel, and what are the rules with duty and non duty and VAT in Europe?
I'm more than happy to pay any taxes that relate to a carbon recovery/pollution offset - but think it's fair to recover the road user charges etc.
When making these evaluations... I look at the nelow. So.. if now, i need 100,000 - 200,000 litres (much for balast)... are these places the right ones to be looking?
http://www.bunkerindex.com/prices/neurope.php
That site is by the tonne... (USD/Tonne = USD per 1130l. I.e. today's duty free and VAT free price is 38.57 EUR cents per litre.
And below.... these guys do it at a per litre basis (with a 50% markup to bring it down to your boat by truck):
http://www.pondoroyacht.com
Where is the best place to procure fuel at the best quality/price ratio?
I posted at http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?463751-Fuel-Price#eQeaMSx4BJHRXqHe.99
.... But what if I'm wrong... And diesel really is $1.34 per litre?!
Ouch.
Based on one day Wanting to fill up with fuel, where's the best place to get diesel, and what are the rules with duty and non duty and VAT in Europe?
I'm more than happy to pay any taxes that relate to a carbon recovery/pollution offset - but think it's fair to recover the road user charges etc.
When making these evaluations... I look at the nelow. So.. if now, i need 100,000 - 200,000 litres (much for balast)... are these places the right ones to be looking?
http://www.bunkerindex.com/prices/neurope.php
That site is by the tonne... (USD/Tonne = USD per 1130l. I.e. today's duty free and VAT free price is 38.57 EUR cents per litre.
And below.... these guys do it at a per litre basis (with a 50% markup to bring it down to your boat by truck):
http://www.pondoroyacht.com
Where is the best place to procure fuel at the best quality/price ratio?
I posted at http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?463751-Fuel-Price#eQeaMSx4BJHRXqHe.99
.... But what if I'm wrong... And diesel really is $1.34 per litre?!
Ouch.
henryf
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The harbourmasters fuel bunkering service in Cowes gives good discount for volume purchases.
Even allowing for the run down I've calculated you would save over 60,000 Euros.
We could easily accommodate you vessel in Gosport. A lot of superyachts use it as an "off the radar" bolt hole.
H.
Even allowing for the run down I've calculated you would save over 60,000 Euros.
We could easily accommodate you vessel in Gosport. A lot of superyachts use it as an "off the radar" bolt hole.
H.
jfm
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Blimey C-R, you're continuing. What is the purpose of this fantasy? There must be a fantasy forum you could join, or found?
You don't have that 49m boat, it doesn't have 750 tonnes of fuel capacity, and the paragraphs you have quoted above, written about you, have been made up because journalists don't make spelling mistakes like yours (e.g. "sparcely"). The tiny picture of your boat is a crudely p'shopped picture of a French 74m vapourware project as wellf pointed out several posts above.
Anyway, don't mind me, keep posting if you wish! But understand that we can see this is fantasy :encouragement:
Capital_R
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Hi jfm,
Sorry if I said 750 tonnes. My bad.
It was 4am where I was when i was typing a lot of that. And i got the number wrong. It's 750 cubes - not tonnes!
GRT of a 49m semi-displacement may well be too small to accommodate that, as pontificated here/above too, but this boat is nowhere near 400/500 as someone did suggest. I had to get special qualifications to be able to drive it.. it's no sun seeker...! Even the retractable azipod thrusters are 800hp.
Definitely with you on the French design faux-pas. What a mistake to post that!
...yes I know - it is 100% a crude photoshopping (but im not unpleased with it - i mostly hope the French don't come after me for stylistic royalties!). I did the photo shopping myeslf when I was explaining to designers the look I was after... so you're spot on, on most counts. It doesn't look quite like that - but that was the hope, and people were so keen for a picture - and i get it; some people are very visual - so I got off topic and posted that - although I mentioned at the time that it was a design phase image, and that I would post real pics in due course, it's kinda taken over the post.
[Heavy sigh].
Also... I wrote up that bio just for here. Typed it on my phone, because #google. Apologies for the typos.
So: as it's starting to feel like I'm the one being trolled... i propose a resolution:
I'm not a gambling man, but I'd like to make an exception in this case.... to put the minds of the seemingly many at ease...
I invite you to wager an offer to benefit all the commenters on the platform, who have helped me:
Would you wager with me, to buy them a beer, and possibly a saussage by barbeque, if I do in fact own this vessel. It is 49m, it does take a huge amount of fuel, and a 34 year old - Which happens to be NZ's largest privately flagged yacht.
If you can get together all the doubters, And share the costs, I'm okay with that. We could make a weekend of it.
Of course, I offer to host that beer on the yacht. I might even cover the airfares for all involved. We'll see.
I in turn, see no point in countering the wager as I cannot lose. However, out of fair play, and custom, I'll buy dinner and a beer for you and your wife, or another of your choosing (tbh ill just send you £250 if okay?) and send you a signed copy of the fuel bill one day if I lose.
As a guide, I believe 750 cubes is 663 tonnes?
Presuming a wager is not illegal (in which case i withdraw in full and refer to the terms as a figure of speech) but neither of us had much to lose by agreeing?
After all, some of the most enduring friendships are often generated from scenarios like this...!
R.
Sorry if I said 750 tonnes. My bad.
It was 4am where I was when i was typing a lot of that. And i got the number wrong. It's 750 cubes - not tonnes!
GRT of a 49m semi-displacement may well be too small to accommodate that, as pontificated here/above too, but this boat is nowhere near 400/500 as someone did suggest. I had to get special qualifications to be able to drive it.. it's no sun seeker...! Even the retractable azipod thrusters are 800hp.
Definitely with you on the French design faux-pas. What a mistake to post that!
...yes I know - it is 100% a crude photoshopping (but im not unpleased with it - i mostly hope the French don't come after me for stylistic royalties!). I did the photo shopping myeslf when I was explaining to designers the look I was after... so you're spot on, on most counts. It doesn't look quite like that - but that was the hope, and people were so keen for a picture - and i get it; some people are very visual - so I got off topic and posted that - although I mentioned at the time that it was a design phase image, and that I would post real pics in due course, it's kinda taken over the post.
[Heavy sigh].
Also... I wrote up that bio just for here. Typed it on my phone, because #google. Apologies for the typos.
So: as it's starting to feel like I'm the one being trolled... i propose a resolution:
I'm not a gambling man, but I'd like to make an exception in this case.... to put the minds of the seemingly many at ease...
I invite you to wager an offer to benefit all the commenters on the platform, who have helped me:
Would you wager with me, to buy them a beer, and possibly a saussage by barbeque, if I do in fact own this vessel. It is 49m, it does take a huge amount of fuel, and a 34 year old - Which happens to be NZ's largest privately flagged yacht.
If you can get together all the doubters, And share the costs, I'm okay with that. We could make a weekend of it.
Of course, I offer to host that beer on the yacht. I might even cover the airfares for all involved. We'll see.
I in turn, see no point in countering the wager as I cannot lose. However, out of fair play, and custom, I'll buy dinner and a beer for you and your wife, or another of your choosing (tbh ill just send you £250 if okay?) and send you a signed copy of the fuel bill one day if I lose.
As a guide, I believe 750 cubes is 663 tonnes?
Presuming a wager is not illegal (in which case i withdraw in full and refer to the terms as a figure of speech) but neither of us had much to lose by agreeing?
After all, some of the most enduring friendships are often generated from scenarios like this...!
R.
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MapisM
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Let me throw in a small contribution to this thread, just in case some forumites don't know the Williamsburg, whose story is indeed interesting - and real, for a change...
This is a rather well done documentary, sponsored by Navalmare as a sort of last effort to find someone willing to finance the restoration.
Below is a pic of how she looked two years ago, when you went onboard with a bunch of architects, designers and restoration experts, and eventually nearly paid the deposit.
Shortly afterwards, she was scrapped.
Capital_R
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Let me throw in a small contribution to this thread, just in case some forumites don't know the Williamsburg, whose story is indeed interesting - and real, for a change...
This is a rather well done documentary, sponsored by Navalmare as a sort of last effort to find someone willing to finance the restoration.
Sadly, already when this video was made, the ship conditions were well beyond repair, and in fact she went from bad to worse very quickly.
Below is a pic of how she looked two years ago, when you went onboard with a bunch of architects, designers and restoration experts, and eventually nearly paid the deposit.
Shortly afterwards, she was scrapped.
Yeah... that's right. She flooded 2 weeks before I could get there. Sadly. So they had a barge alongside pumping her like crazy. We'd discussed saving 20% of her by mass and doing basically a full rebuild. Which basically meant starting from scratch and keeping 160 tonnes of original steel: the stack, windlasses/props as features, and one of the engines to be done up (never to work again). I tried to upload a pic of the restored sketches... but I think the photo was too big. David Seal is a very nice guy. I felt very bad for him that the sale didn't go through.
Capital_R
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Let me throw in a small contribution to this thread, just in case some forumites don't know the Williamsburg, whose story is indeed interesting - and real, for a change...
MapisM....
Slightly starting to tire of the trolling; so you're invited to join fml above and chip in with the beers.
Money-where-your-mouth-is kinda scenario