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MapisM said:
Fine, but for boats that convention is clearly based on MY, so why do you care about the rest?
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Who says so? I've bought and sold 13 used boats and I've never referred to the model year as the year of the boat. IMHO, its just a cash flow smoothing device that manufacturers use to get buyers to take delivery and pay for their boats in the latter part of the year, rather than wait for delivery in the first part of the next year.
Of course I'd be delighted to take delivery of my new boat in the latter part of the year providing the invoice and HIN certificate were dated in the following year but you'd have to find a very accommodating manufacturer to do that
 
Deleted User said:
I don't know whether you deliberately misunderstand me or what...
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Nope, I understood what you meant, and I'm aware that the buyer can only know a tiny fraction of what the car maker knows.
But even if that tiny fraction is waaaay more than a buyer (and even the builder itself!) will ever be able to trace on a boat.
Take one of those stock cars with allegedly replaced VINs: if you would simply pull out the ashtray, it's more than likely that you'll find the month/year (sometimes even the day) it was produced, stamped within its plastic shell.
 
Deleted User said:
Who says so? I've bought and sold 13 used boats and I've never referred to the model year as the year of the boat.
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Why not? That's as widely accepted as referring to the registration date for a car.
You're free to look at that differently, of course, but that's the market practice. :)
 
MapisM said:
You're free to look at that differently, of course, but that's the market practice. :)
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Again who says so? Maybe at this stage some of the brokers who lurk around here can tell us what they think?
 
Deleted User said:
Who says so?
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It's widely accepted market practice, that's who says so. You can do as you wish but you're out of line with the market. If hypothetically you had come to me complaining that my last was being advertised as 2011 when it left the factory middle December 2010 and it should be the "2010 price" I'd have told you to FRO, or you might well have F'edRO before i had the chance to suggest it :). The rest of the market fully accepted it was a 2011 boat, built to 2011 spec (which is different from 2010 spec) with a 2011 m/y HIN and first used for the 2011 season. Twas exactly the same when I sold my 2009 Sq58, which was 2009 m/y HIN and spec (different from 2008 spec) and was the SIBS 2008 exhibit :eek::eek:
 
jfm said:
It's widely accepted market practice, that's who says so. You can do as you wish but you're out of line with the market. If hypothetically you had come to me complaining that my last was being advertised as 2011 when it left the factory middle December 2010 and it should be the "2010 price" I'd have told you to FRO, or you might well have F'edRO before i had the chance to suggest it :). The rest of the market fully accepted it was a 2011 boat, built to 2011 spec (which is different from 2010 spec) with a 2011 m/y HIN and first used for the 2011 season. Twas exactly the same when I sold my 2009 Sq58, which was 2009 m/y HIN and spec (different from 2008 spec) and was the SIBS 2008 exhibit :eek::eek:
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Best you don't find a buyer like me than because I knocked my seller a few quid when I found out about the discrepancy with my boat:) Agree to disagree on this one because I'm not changing my mind
 
Deleted User said:
Best you don't find a buyer like me than because I knocked my seller a few quid when I found out about the discrepancy with my boat
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Well, my guess is that if that seller eventually accepted your offer, motivated by that discrepancy, he would have accepted it even if motivated by your bad mood in the day when you made it... :D
No problem to agree to disagree, anyway!
 
MapisM said:
Well, my guess is that if that seller eventually accepted your offer, motivated by that discrepancy, he would have accepted it even if motivated by your bad mood in the day when you made it... :D
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Or becuase he'd got a great shag that morning. I always think it's funny when people think the price was reduced because of some negotiation point they made. All that happened was that the price buyer would pay overlapped with price seller would sell at. The rest is technically known as dancing around handbags.

Happy to agree to disagree!
 
jfm said:
Or becuase he'd got a great shag that morning. I always think it's funny when people think the price was reduced because of some negotiation point they made. All that happened was that the price buyer would pay overlapped with price seller would sell at. The rest is technically known as dancing around handbags.
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Blimey I've obviously touched a nerve here. Yup, agree to disagree
 
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