Sunken yacht in Solent

[wonkywinch]

Our newest liveaboards in the Solent.

Saw them mentioned on another thread, originally anchored close to the main channel near Newtown entrance but now relocated to the north side 2.5nm to the west of the Beaulieu entrance. (N50°45.4' W001°24.5')

Hard to spot that day shape even when close up.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Well at least it’s there.

 

[john_morris_uk]

But it’s a Swan so do different rules apply? A bit like lane three is the ‘German car lane’ on motorways, especially for BMWs, Porsche, Mercedes et cetera.

(He said with tongue very firmly in cheek as we have two Audis.)

 

[Mark-1]

Classy liveaboards. They actually improve the neighbourhood.

 

[wonkywinch]

Just found an interesting back story - Aliunde on Facebook

 

[Minerva]

So a boat legally at anchor, and showing the shapes required as per col regs (and i presume an anchor light at night) and you try to publicly shame them…?

Feels rather odd behavior on your part.

 

[ashtead]

Good luck to them -at least not clogging up national trust waters I guess

 

[VicS]

So a boat legally at anchor, and showing the shapes required as per col regs (and i presume an anchor light at night) and you try to publicly shame them…?

Feels rather odd behavior on your part.

Not in fact showing a ball as required by the Colregs. They require the ball to be exhibited "where it can best be seen". No way is that one where it can best be seen!

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[wonkywinch]

So a boat legally at anchor, and showing the shapes required as per col regs (and i presume an anchor light at night) and you try to publicly shame them…?

Feels rather odd behavior on your part.

How am I publicly shaming someone with a photo and position of a vessel that has attracted some interest?

 

[VicS]

This is better

 

[newtothis]

So a boat legally at anchor, and showing the shapes required as per col regs (and i presume an anchor light at night) and you try to publicly shame them…?

Feels rather odd behavior on your part.

It is the god-given right of all right-minded sailors to point to the faults of others in order to show their betterness.

 

[dunedin]

In Scotland we have a national stock of 5 anchor balls. If you apply in advance you can borrow one.

Motoring cones come with each Yachtmaster Examiner, and removed after use.

 

[Blue Seas]

Does anybody really need to see a ball to work out that that boat is at anchor and failing which, they are going to collide with it?

 

[GEM43]

Does anybody really need to see a ball to work out that that boat is at anchor and failing which, they are going to collide with it?

Required by the ColRegs. Takes a minute to hoist. Cost is nil. Why not do it?

 

[dunedin]

Does anybody really need to see a ball to work out that that boat is at anchor and failing which, they are going to collide with it?

I think realistically it depends where a boat is anchored - in some rivers it may be ambiguous, particularly due to flowing water, so a an anchor ball is useful. Also if doing a temporary anchor in an unusual place - perhaps waiting for a tide or similar.
But yes where I generally sail, if a boat is in a bay that is a recognised anchorage, and has no thorough passage, it is pretty obvious that a boat is liable to be anchored.

 

[Blue Seas]

Required by the ColRegs. Takes a minute to hoist. Cost is nil. Why not do it?

Because, after 52 years of anchoring in thousands of anchorages worldwide I can think of any number of things (from checking the set, to taking bearings, to checking the swinging room, and getting a weather forecast for the intended length of stay etc. etc.) that I would prioritise over hoisting a little plastic ball to avoid collision.
And whilst I was doing all those other things, I would by definition be delaying the hoisting of said ball and therefore be in default of the colregs.
I would be happy with my prioritisation however as I have yet to hear of any collision incurred due to lack of a ball but I have witnessed many an incident from the other examples I give.
Some may choose to prioritise the ball, I do not.

 

[GEM43]

Because, after 52 years of anchoring in thousands of anchorages worldwide I can think of any number of things (from checking the set, to taking bearings, to checking the swinging room, and getting a weather forecast for the intended length of stay etc. etc.) that I would prioritise over hoisting a little plastic ball to avoid collision.
And whilst I was doing all those other things, I would by definition be delaying the hoisting of said ball and therefore be in default of the colregs.
I would be happy with my prioritisation however as I have yet to hear of any collision incurred due to lack of a ball but I have witnessed many an incident from the other examples I give.
Some may choose to prioritise the ball, I do not.

That’s ridiculous.

 

[zoidberg]

Rather a lot of years past, I had the use of a Solent-based 40' Kelsall catamaran and recall anchoring one sunny afternoon about where 'Aliunde' is shown. At the time, there were trials going on to select, I think, boats for the British Admiral's Cup Team and so there was lots of practice racing going on around a temporary racing buoy just a few yards out from our position.

My girlfriend, fairly new to sailing, was keen to watch from the tramp-foredeck and waved excitedly, jumping up and down, as the various crews approached their Windward Mark. AIR she was wearing a rather small blue bikini bottom and my rather larger Aran sweater loosely draped over her shoulders, the arms knotted in front.

Thoroughly blonde and quite statuesque, she was certainly the prettiest girl for miles, and I well understood the several completely muffed 'Gybe-Hoist' roundings of the mark - and the muffled curses of several owner-skippers....

 

[Blue Seas]

That’s ridiculous.

Thank you for your detailed reply. After all these decades perhaps we can move from from 'Which is the best anchor' to 'What is the best black ball'.

 

[capnsensible]

Because, after 52 years of anchoring in thousands of anchorages worldwide I can think of any number of things (from checking the set, to taking bearings, to checking the swinging room, and getting a weather forecast for the intended length of stay etc. etc.) that I would prioritise over hoisting a little plastic ball to avoid collision.
And whilst I was doing all those other things, I would by definition be delaying the hoisting of said ball and therefore be in default of the colregs.
I would be happy with my prioritisation however as I have yet to hear of any collision incurred due to lack of a ball but I have witnessed many an incident from the other examples I give.
Some may choose to prioritise the ball, I do not.

Makes you wonder why all those merchant vessels from cruiseliners to tankers and container ships bother.

Oh wait a minute, they follow the rules for prevention of collision....