Chiara’s slave
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Eccentric, sure. He does seem somehow to be able to afford life's necessaries., and be quite an intrusion on the landscape.
Sunken small yacht, Newton Creek IoW
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Mark-1
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I'm not sure live aboard is the same as homeless, we have a live aboard forum on YBW. (Admittedly they're probably in more exotic places with better presented boats.) On a positive note, this guy actually sails his boat and moves around to some degree.
Yeah, there are already several live aboards up Fishbourne channel and they fit in, their boats are well kept and enhance the area rather than detract. They are locally popular, they know boats inside out and will offer good free advice on request. Two coats of white paint and some wreck recovery insurance would totally change perception of this guy (assuming he didn't have any which I guess we don't know).
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Blueboatman
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Yup I like that.
I even quite like the pink paint.
Sometimes I do wonder if people who for example paint those words on the side of their houses/floating homes forget that many many of those of us who have to look at it have spent the working week keeping head above water and fighting or doing our tiny bit toward a fairer more just world.
And at the weekend it’s both nice- and really necessary and healthy - to have a breather from all that.
The expression ‘ shoving it in your face’ comes to mind - did the other people who use those same waters ask for that?
So whilst I am happy to see him floating along on his lifestyle , I am a tad ambivalent about the energy he or his floating banner projects towards those around him , and the detritus left behind.
It all feels a bit passive aggressive .
Perhaps it’s a phase and something more positive will come along in his life, I do hope so.
I’ve been poor /destitute just enough in life to know it ain’t funny and sometimes the smallest seemingly irrelevant acts of charity or kindness can go a long long way.
Hmm .
Wansworth
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If your unemployed and over fifty/forty it’s quite possible you will never work again and going by this forum a 26 yacht is probably the cheapest sort of home available …..if you move around or just pay harbours dues and anchore.You can collect your unemployment pay somehow,obviously not the best way to get y butbetterthanon the street.Many homeless have mental problems and cannot cope in our modern society,justsaying
Chiara’s slave
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My thoughts are slightly less charitable. I think there’s an element of his behaviour aimed specifically at us so called rich yotties. We have the right to non violent demonstration here, but I do wish he didn’t choose to do it in such beautiful places, leaving his environmental sh1t behind him for others to clear up.
wonkywinch
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I agree. One of my sisters turned anti establishment about 30 years ago and her life is (in my opinion) a complete mess. She gave up a more stable life, house with mortgage etc and now moves from home to home, is receiving treatment for hard drug abuse, son is a well known drug dealer just finished a long prison sentence.
You'll regularly find her at protest marches etc. She seems angry about everything but is, of course, entitled to her opinion and way of life but it doesn't look very enjoyable from where I sit.
Chiara’s slave
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Actually, she, and our friend in his pink boat are not entitled to their life. They are both breaking the law.
Marsali_1
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Like boats with folding training wheels?
Chiara’s slave
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Charming. Mine doesn’t sink, nor is she a floating junkyard. It’s not a piece of antique furniture, I’ll grant you. There’s only room for one varnish vampire in anyone’s life, and I have one of those.
oldmanofthehills
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Being in poor taste may not be breaking the law. He may be guilty of civil offences if he avoids harbour dues but you dont know for certain that he does. Living on a 26ft boat is not the same as living in a half million pound house so I reckon he is poor. Some charity might be nice and less condescension from rich so and sos.
By the way do you think genocide should continue?
Chiara’s slave
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Don’t be silly. Or political. The bit of law he has broken, probably, is to do with what is essentially flytipping, not merely anchoring as he chooses. He sank a boat, by negligence or possibly design, in Newtown Creek. I think that probably is like leaving a pile of rubbish in a layby.
oldmanofthehills
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It seem rather unlikely he deliberately sunk a boat, and neglect may be imprudent not criminal. Spoiling your view is not a crime. Its not merely a boat you are slave to
Chiara’s slave
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You may not be quite so familiar with the nuances of this as we are, from your 100 mile viewpoint. It took him a day to make his new boat a junkyard like his sunk one, yet it went down with what appeared to be half the contents of the council tip on it’s decks. The rubbish is a part of his stage act. It's also not the realms of fantasy that sinking it was a part of his protest. Though if it was accidental, his actions appear by witness accounts to be grossly negligent. Other people manage to protest the actions of middle eastern governments without causing mini environmental disasters in nature reserves. There’s about 30 of them on semi permanent duty in the middle of our capital, and good on them. They sing, chant, and wave their flags. They don’t, as far as I know, even leave a paper bag behind.
Marsali_1
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There have been 333 posts on this subject (not including this one of mine) and if one takes a conservative measure that each post takes 1 minute to compose and post, that represents 333 minutes of time spent on the subject. Imagine if even half of that energy was devoted to understanding and resolving the underlying issues. It would still leave ~2 3/4 hours to complain about whether someone's anchor ball is sufficiently displayed or if they are using the right anchor to destroy the grazing grounds of sea horses.
Mark-1
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The pink boat predates the sunk boat.
winch2
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I'm bored with being nice. Authority will always go for the lowest hanging fruit. If I throw all my junk out onto the pavement they'll be onto me like a ton of bricks, but dump a highly polluting boat emptying out the Henry as you go and all seems well. It's high time someone way above my pay scale grew a pair and had a word with this character.
Mark-1
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You reckon? Looks to me like the owner of the Aliunde is being held responsible for a cleanup bill that looks like it's gonna end with a lot of zeros.
KevinV
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Quite right too - that whole tale is fishy
Mark-1
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I suspect some dreamer got a free or cheap 56 footer. Realized he couldn't afford to keep it anywhere. Left it at anchor and went home. It drifted about a bit and a few weeks later it sank.
They have said they're chasing him legally so if he's uninsured and he has assets, I reckon he's gonna lose them to pay for a commercial recovery.
seeSimon
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The overriding issue with this type of scenario is that "you can't get blood from a stone"...
Bill all you like....either they don't have the money/insurance to pay, or any assets "disappear" and they go bust. Happens regularly.
Best you can hope for is that the MOD or similar might assist with a "training exercise". See posts about similar on the Tamar at Dandy Hole, as but one example.