Suitability of a 58 hatteras long range cruiser in the med

Zkaliman said:
For sale ?
Or just cruising by
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It's a 70 foot Hattaras in Le Lavandou. Bought by the French guy who had a Grand Banks next to my boat in Le Lav. He's bought this and has paid to moor it over winter on this quay at the entrance to the port. The ads for it are still on Yachtworld. 400,000 euros asking price. Guess he paid less. Lot of boat for the money but lots to maintain.
 
Grey Goose said:
It's a 70 foot Hattaras in Le Lavandou. Bought by the French guy who had a Grand Banks next to my boat in Le Lav. He's bought this and has paid to moor it over winter on this quay at the entrance to the port. The ads for it are still on Yachtworld. 400,000 euros asking price. Guess he paid less. Lot of boat for the money but lots to maintain.
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A lot to maintain but you wouldn’t need a house
 
MapisM said:
Who by? Someone who never cruised in the Med, more than likely?

Aside from some minor technicalities that were already mentioned, like the 50Hz grid and the convenience of a stern passerelle, there's absolutely nothing that make a boat suitable (or not) for the Med.
Pretty much like in the US, it's all down to personal preferences, nothing else.
Sure, you will see less pure displacement trawlers in the Med compared to the PNW for instance, or less sportfisherman boats than in FL.
But that's strictly because most Med boaters are more familiar with different boat styles, like planing FB boats or open/hard top express cruisers.
Choices which BTW are driven by fashion/design, to a pretty large extent.
Certainly not because a Hatt MY (or SF for that matter) aren't "suitable" for cruising these waters!
Bottom line, just go with whatever you prefer, and all the best for your plans. (y)
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Hey mapism thanx for your input I think I found the boat we put in an offer - quick question - it’s a wide body so no side decks - will that be manageable for med mooring here ? Cheers thanx again Defever 57, 125.000 € | iNautia.com
 
That's certainly manageable with finger moorings, as visible in the pics, because there's no need to grab bow lines astern and bring them at the bow.
Trouble is, in many/most Med marinas, that's how berths are arranged.
And short of asking a marinero to pass you the line directly at the bow from his RIB (a service which some marinas offer also for boats of this size, but not all - it's more normal for 30+ meters boats), I'm afraid you should invent some exotic solution with your crew.
Like having a deck hand up on the f/b with a long hook, to whom someone else will pass the bow line after grabbing it astern, and then this "someone else" moves to the bow, takes back the bow line from the chap on the f/b, an eventually secure it at the bow.
But I wouldn't fancy doing that regularly, that's for sure!
 
Zkaliman said:
Hey portofino thanx for your input I think I found the boat we put in an offer - quick question - it’s a wide body so no side decks - will that be manageable for med mooring here ? Cheers thanx again Defever 57, 125.000 € | iNautia.com
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It’s a nice boat! No side decks mean it’s huge inside. But you are right, Med mooring will be a pain. I suspect it will require at least two people, I would talk to the previous owners to see how they did it
 
MapisM said:
That's certainly manageable with finger moorings, as visible in the pics, because there's no need to grab bow lines astern and bring them at the bow.
Trouble is, in many/most Med marinas, that's how berths are arranged.
And short of asking a marinero to pass you the line directly at the bow from his RIB (a service which some marinas offer also for boats of this size, but not all - it's more normal for 30+ meters boats), I'm afraid you should invent some exotic solution with your crew.
Like having a deck hand up on the f/b with a long hook, to whom someone else will pass the bow line after grabbing it astern, and then this "someone else" moves to the bow, takes back the bow line from the chap on the f/b, an eventually secure it at the bow.
But I wouldn't fancy doing that regularly, that's for sure!
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Thanx man !!!
 
Bouba said:
It’s a nice boat! No side decks mean it’s huge inside. But you are right, Med mooring will be a pain. I suspect it will require at least two people, I would talk to the previous owners to see how they did it
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Thanx bouba - I really appreciate these insights- whenever I go out I go out with a day captain - and the easier it is for them the easier it will be for me- the boats always been in Portuga, I’ll see how they did it - I thought this was the boat - but I’m hearing side decks are good in med. thanx for the insight.
 
Zkaliman said:
Hey portofino thanx for your input I think I found the boat we put in an offer - quick question - it’s a wide body so no side decks - will that be manageable for med mooring here ? Cheers thanx again Defever 57, 125.000 € | iNautia.com
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I can’t see any docking issues .You move through the side door to the bow and rear saloon door to the stern .
Like AN Other med boat berthing ….nice and slow .
There should not be a need for anyone to run frantically attempting to beat Usain Bolt in moving bow - stern of vive versa .

The ground line can be gotten with a long boat hook over the top once stern lines attached loosely .Or get ( radio ahead ) the marina staff via a rib to get it and pass it up .
You will need 2x long boat hooks to pass it to the guy at the side door .That’s all .Easy !

Its not a deal breaker .Rest of the boat looks fine .
Bit of a mimi refurb needed inside to suit your interior taste .
 
Zkaliman said:
Thanx bouba - I really appreciate these insights- whenever I go out I go out with a day captain - and the easier it is for them the easier it will be for me- the boats always been in Portuga, I’ll see how they did it - I thought this was the boat - but I’m hearing side decks are good in med. thanx for the insight.
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There are boats with no side decks that are able to Med moor. But these have walk ways from the flybridge to the bow. As long as there is a complete passage from the stern to the bow it doesn’t matter if it’s high up. But without a way to walk from the fly to the bow then the only way is to have another person on the bow to pass the rope to. While two people can still dock the boat on their own, it’s going to require a little co-ordination and a bit of practice.
Best thing is to go to the boat, stand on it and imagine how it will all work
 
If you go out single handed simply attach a mooring buoy to the ground line at the bow on a piece of thin rope verging string .
Back it in tie the stern .Walk to the bow pick up the buoy tie off the bow .

Crack open a beer and Chillax .
 
hope OP doesn't make it to GR with this setup :) no help what so ever in 99% of the ports.
OTOH most would expect you to use your own anchor so that'll be fine.
Don't see a clear route from aft to bow tbh, maybe missing something
 
vas said:
hope OP doesn't make it to GR with this setup :) no help what so ever in 99% of the ports.
OTOH most would expect you to use your own anchor so that'll be fine.
Don't see a clear route from aft to bow tbh, maybe missing something
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Exactly, it’s a two man job. But Porto is right it’s not a problem in his home port
 
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