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No - a pragmatist is the person who unblocks the heads and cleans the oily water out of the engine tray.

Hey did you know that brats have their useful side effects - 2 of our most useful on board items are nappies (for mopping oily engine water - well the Perkins has had a minor oil leak for the last 7 years) and Milton for water purification, mould and general horridness. I knew there was a reason for them somewhere !

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This is turning into a family thread !!!!!!! Should one say perish the thought ?

What are you doing ashore ? My excuse is attempting to get wireless broadband working - still ! Wot's your's ? Or is it UK "summer" ? Dream about the Marquesas !



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Not only that, but it's becoming recursive. I thought we were trying to get away from family things?

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Bli..ey - you've corrected the mis-spelling in your "handle". What's the point of posting when the PCs are about 6 feet apart ? You could try saying it - it's quicker than dial-up.

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Sorry, I was probably pised when I typed my handle. Sorry again. Now may I borrow your WO?

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Oh I see what you mean, ok. And I was very interested in mine as they grew up (and still am very interested). But I don't want to flick through YM to find a few handy hints on them and my point persists I don't see why female sailors would either. See, I'm a feminist really. ;-)

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Isn't alot of this Dr Spock approach to ones own kids and sailing just a coercion to mould them into images of ourselves and manipulating them to like what we like? So, in my view, instead of fretting over how to make them enjoy it (aka "making life easy for parents" /forums/images/icons/frown.gif) and requiring magazine articles about the subject and boring the pants off the rest of us, the only advice there is can be summed up along the lines of:

"Hey kids, Mom and I are going sailing (insert here "today", "for a few days", "for a few weeks", "for forever"). You lot coming or not? If you are coming, tell us what you want to do and we will see if it can be done. If you are not coming tell us who you are going to stay with."

Usually they can sort it out for themselves from 5-6 years of age onwards. Younger than that, who cares, they don't.

John

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An occasional funny article about dogs is a little different from an entire 14 pages-worth. Per se, writing about kids is not always tedious - Libby Purves on the subject of teenagers was highly amusing. But the quantity and lack of quality in some of these articles is the problem as far as I'm concerned.

We too have sailed with kids and it can be fun. They can even turn into useful crew if you can ever get them out of their sleeping bags. But do we need to read about it ? Of course the purpose may be along the lines of that dreadful recent article about how to get your woman to sail with you - all those lonely chaps single-handing and wishing they had their families with them. Or is it the "if I can persuade them all to come sailing I can spend more of the family budget on my toy ?" In which case I sympathise !

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Aren't people making a lot of assumptions about what the target audience of these magazines want? A significant proportion of the boating community must be people who have families. If you don't involve your family in your weekend activities, either you get to spend less time on them as the family reasonably enquires why you're absent every weekend, or you start on the slippery slope to estrangement. Furthermore, any sport that doesn't look to involve children is destined to wither, isn't it?. I only bought the magazine because of the Sailing with children articles - not all people interested in sailing are retired, childless and grumpy.

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I find quite a lot of these replies pretty irritating, having just started sailing with a family!! I have sailed for a long time and having a baby on board does change things. I am lucky in that my wife and I sail as a joint interest and there is none of this SWMBO and other patronising rubbish. I have also bought YM religously for years and would welcome more practical articles about making sailing with kids easier- there are plenty of articles in yachting magazines about labour saving devices for people who can't manage some physical aspects of sailing like they used to. Surely it is a forum for all things to do with sailing, not just grumpy old men who always know best, but who probably have had kids in the past.

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"if you can ever get them out of their sleeping bags"

Sounds familiar! But at least they're both beginning to enjoy taking night watches.

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