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[pragmatist]

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My partner bagged YM first as usual but I was stunned when he relinquished it later that day, claiming he'd read it. It wasn't till I got to the 3rd article about "kiddies" that I decided not to bother myself.

I really thought when the female editor of YM moved to PBO that we would get rid of silly articles about which designer sunglasses you should choose. I certainly didn't think Paul Gelder would infest the pages of a yachting magazine with endless tales of children. Admittedly the rounded picture of Peter Blake had some interest. But then Belinda Fetlock-Fanatic with her teenagers (and who by the way plays a clarinet that looks just like a recorder - what a think to ruin the boat peace with !) was followed by an article about sailing with your baby. At that point I gave up.

Please YM can't you give us articles about cruising and boats and leave the womens' magazines to handle the increasingly child-centric preoccupations of Britain ?

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[pessimist]

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Steady on now. Us chaps tend to be a trifle embarrassed sneaking out of Smugs with a copy of Womans Own. I, for one, am looking forward to future articles on potty training, breast feeding etc.

Keep up the good work YM.

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[Stevie_T]

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I agree
The cover says 12 page, I counted 14 pages (unless you dis-count the half page Lombard ad).
Flicked straight past them.

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[jac]

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So we've had kidds and boats, Introducing women to boats. Why not just do the boat stuff,

I have to say i am wondering if IPC are now trying to save money by writing one big article and then having all the magazines cut the bits they need out and paste in. Kiddies and Boats - Womans Own and YM. Electronics and Boats - PC PLus and YM what next Where to Stable your horse on board? Which knitting pattern is best for cold weather sailing and also has room for a laptop in the pocket.

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[jamesjermain]

Every now and again...

We have to face the wrath of one half of our readership in order to please the other half. Requests for more articles on family and sailing matters come top of the popularity stakes - except just after an issue like the current one when requests for fewer such articles top the list.

I'm sure Paul will note your coments and there will be no more boating-with-baby type pieces for another couple of years.

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[nicho]

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I understand where you are coming from, and I have to partly agree with you. However, spare a thought for the editorial staff at such magazines, who month on month, year on year, have the difficult job of filling their publications pages with a variety of articles to suit the interests of a broad range of readers, without repetition. It must be hellish difficult.

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[Sybarite]

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What I think might be of interest are the home education possibilities for those who want to head off with a family around the world. In other words do you really have to wait until your kids have finished their schooling before the real day of liberation comes?

A local headmistress recommended for example the American Calvert School programme (which she herself followed when she was young) and, apparently, Australian programmes are well developed because of families living in the bush.

It reminds me of a vicar, a priest and a rabbi who were talking about the moment when life begins. The vicar said that it coincides with birth. The priest disputed this saying that it was at the moment of conception. The rabbi, after a period of quiet reflection, said that life begins when the dog dies and the children leave home....

John

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[jac]

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I thinks it just that it seems to have taken over the last few issues but Nichos point taken about being difficult to come up with new stuff to put in.

Personally I think we could have done with more space for the recent A-Z articles, both in terms of more boats and more details on each one as most of us are probably not going to be buying new!

Is it not sexist to put "womens" articles in a sailing magazine. Aren't women who read YM going to be interested in boat type things and seek that sort of article in YM and then turn to specialist child raising publications for advice on those aspects of their life.


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[wishbone]

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Encouraging people to take kids sailing is a great idea, I was brought up in the fifties in East London we were poor no boats for us. It’s a great life for kids I have met up with some very calm mild mannered youngsters, nothing like the little b******ds in town centres running amok, smashing windows…and bus stop enclosures.

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[longjohnsadler]

All of the people some of the time..

Wouldn't read too much into this. As on the forum, one persons passion is another persons bug-bear. I imagine people are still buying the mag (I do) and its good that people who are writing it interact here.

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[doug748]

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Here, Here. Wish I had'nt bought the soddin thing.

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[longjohnsadler]

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If a pragmatist is an optimist with a boat in the UK, and a pessimist is an optimist in full possession of the facts, is an optimist a pessimist married to a pragmatist?

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[tome]

Re: Well I enjoyed them!!

I haven't read this months yet, but I'm inclined to agree with you about families. It's generally a pleasure to have a family boat raft up, and children bring a certain charm to sailing which I very much enjoy. Even on a 'lads outing' I would hope that a family would feel comfortable alongside.

I first encountered Salcombe as a kid on a camping holiday. My family could not afford any sort of boat, but we were befriended by a couple with a lovely 40ft sailing boat. They took great pleasure in inviting me and my sisters on board and showing us around. I must have asked so many dumb questions, but they patiently answered them all. It was probably this experience more than any other which encouraged my current obsession!

There was a twist to this. Many years later, I was excited to be invited for my first sail on a large boat, and it was immediately familiar as I stowed my bag in the focsle. Although in different ownership it was the very same which I'd visited as a lad in Salcombe, and I enjoyed many subsequent trips to France and Spain on her.

No complaints at all if the current issue is pitched at sprogs on boats. I'll pick up a copy in the morning and look forward to reading it, nappies and all.



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[longjohnsadler]

Re: Well I enjoyed them!!

Yep. I think most of us who enjoy sailing got hooked at an early age.
And if you buy a magazine expecting every article to suit you then don't be surprised if you're disappointed..

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[Gunfleet]

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Come on James... one half of the readership? Nothing like half the readership of yachting magazines is female and that part which is female certainly doesn't buy yachting magazines for handy hints on how to look after the kids. I think we've all had quite enough of Lucinda whatshername and her kids, however charming they all are.Unless it's a cunning plan to shove us all over to Yachting World.

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[MainlySteam]

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Ships Cat has asked if there could be an issue of YM devoted to sailing with cats - dirt tray training, stopping falling overboard, entertainment when en route, not choking on fish bones, keeping warm, not getting trodden on, etc, etc?

John

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[snowleopard]

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the answer to your question may be found by comparison of profiles ;-)

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[DavidofMersea]

Crimewatch - No Hiding Place

You are saying that YM have "a difficult job filing their pages every month" but about a year ago I suggested on Scuttlebutt, that YM could have a monthly article featuring a boat that had been stolen - with YM's wide circulation, there would be no hiding place - which would be a good name for this monthly piece

A lot of people said what a good idea this would be, but it went no further.

It is Paul Gelder's job to increase circulation, and it might be that he thought that a monthly stolen boat item would not be of interest - if this is so, I would disagree, the motivation for reading such a monthly item would be the same as watching Crimewatch, and that is very popular.

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[pessimist]

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Um, not quite, but sort of.

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