Studland Seahorses, Studland Parish Council comments

I've had comments in the past about lack of joined up thinking by such people. Like for instance putting in extra car parking in Studland (this was years ago) and then complaining that all the extra visitor numbers was destroying the footpaths to Old Harry, so they then cleared some of the scrub, destryoying a nice bit of natural vegetation and widened the path. I'm surprised they didn't concrete it all over.

Natural evolution is surely better.
 
It would be a bit of surprise to quite a lot of people that you have the right the lay a mooring anywhere and that no one has a right to charge for its use (see the earlier thread regarding picking up vacant moorings), but to say that that would be an extreme interpretation of the law would be something of an understatement.
 
It seems clear to me that these seahorses have arrived and created these giant holes in the seagrass.

I suspect they're damaging boats as well, there must be some evidence that there are more boat accidents in Studland bay now than there were 200 years ago.
 
As I say ...you talk rubbish !
You and your pals know nothing about seahorses or eelgrass.
I'm glad jo public is on our side...lets keep it that way, when we push for studland to become a marine conservation zone.
Studland parish council....is this what they call the' money five ' down in studland ??
All very good mates with the local hotel and pub owners heh ?
All you people are worried about is money, to hell with the eelgrass beds.
 
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It would be a bit of surprise to quite a lot of people that you have the right the lay a mooring anywhere and that no one has a right to charge for its use (see the earlier thread regarding picking up vacant moorings), but to say that that would be an extreme interpretation of the law would be something of an understatement.

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Under UK law the actions of the Crown Estates Commissioners are unchallengeable in court - because nobody can sue the Queen. It would be interesting to see an ECHR case against that ...
 
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It seems clear to me that these seahorses have arrived and created these giant holes in the seagrass.

I suspect they're damaging boats as well, there must be some evidence that there are more boat accidents in Studland bay now than there were 200 years ago.

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Sounds as plausible as any other theory. Perhaps we should set up a trust to investigate.......
 
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As I say ...you talk rubbish !
You and your pals know nothing about seahorses or eelgrass.
I'm glad jo public is on our side...lets keep it that way, when we push for studland to become a marine conservation zone.
Studland parish council....is this what they call the' money five ' down in studland ??
All very good mates with the local hotel and pub owners heh ?
All you people are worried about is money, to hell with the eelgrass beds.

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Well now your REAL thoughts and plans are in the open.

Hopefully now they are in the open some who blindly follow will think a bit more for themselves.

Oh by the way, the last time I was in the Bankes Arms was in 1976, I've never been in the Hotel ever and I have exactly the same qualifications as you do as far as seahorses and eel grass is concerned - NONE. However I do have a mind of my own capable of reasoned thought.

So far you have rubbished all views except your own, including those from Crown Estates, English Nature and now Studland Parish Council.
 
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As I say ...you talk rubbish !
You and your pals know nothing about seahorses or eelgrass.
I'm glad jo public is on our side...lets keep it that way, when we push for studland to become a marine conservation zone.
Studland parish council....is this what they call the' money five ' down in studland ??
All very good mates with the local hotel and pub owners heh ?
All you people are worried about is money, to hell with the eelgrass beds.

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Some recommended reading for you, for those long winter evenings ahead:


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If I were a member of the Seahorse Trust, I would wince every time you opened your mouth.
 
Look .... as far as I am (and I believe many others are) concerned we would welcome an UNBIASED study into Studland bay.

From the photos you provided last week it is quite obvious that traditional moorings do clear an area of seabed. The effect by anchors was less obvious from the photos provided.

So - rather than go into hysterics about eelgrass and seahorses can we campaign for a sensible study first...

I'm still curious about the eelgrass recovery rate from the anchorage.
Other questions would be - what other plants/creatures are in the area - what effect does the patchy eelgrass have on them (it could be a benefit or not) and do they contribute to the

Otherwise we've got a polarising view on 2 species without looking at the wider picture ....
 
I first visited Studland some 35 years ago, and remember that in those days it was not difficult to find an area free of Eel Grass to drop the hook so that it would not get fouled. Recent visits, the latest just a few days ago, it has been virtually impossible to find any 'holes' in the Grass beds to get the hook down safely. This last time, having read these various threads and comments, I spent quite a long time scouting around to see if the 'damage' we are accused of doing with our anchors was evident. As far as I could see, the Eel Grass has now taken over almost the entire inshore part of the anchorage, and appears to be thriving.

Interesting too that the Seahorses now prove to have been there 50 years, and also seem to be thriving in spite of all the 'damage' that is claimed by up to 350 boats anchoring in their environment at any one time!
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You really are an objectionable person!!

What are your qualifications in this discussion, are you a marine biologist? Zoologist perhaps? Botanist? Marine botanist? or just a well meaning amatuer, can you let us know please, without the objectionable ranting?

I am all for protection of species and habitat, but first we must study the facts and the effects, before we make blanket vstatements. You do your cause no good atall, with this misdirected ranting.

I am all for a study an un-biased one, maybe one of the universities would be interested, I know I would be.

By the way, moorings do not have to scour the seabed, floating lines and bouys can be used, which do no scouring, as they are not being dragged along the bottom around the anchor.
 
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As I say ...you talk rubbish !
You and your pals know nothing about seahorses or eelgrass.
I'm glad jo public is on our side...lets keep it that way, when we push for studland to become a marine conservation zone.
Studland parish council....is this what they call the' money five ' down in studland ??
All very good mates with the local hotel and pub owners heh ?
All you people are worried about is money, to hell with the eelgrass beds.


[/ QUOTE ] You my son are the sort of loony who gets conservationists a bad name.

You have completely discredited yourself on here - well done, that takes some doing! Hopefully you have annoyed enough people to encourage some of them to actively oppose your little empire building campaign.

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Just thinking

Why don't a lot of us join the organisation. i'm assuming that it's not a one person band.

We can then ensure that loonies like ST44 are kept out of the way of making rational decisions as he obviously wouldn't understand a rational decision if it bit him.

HE strikes me as professional protester/ campaigner/ class war activist and obviously stereotypical white middle class, middle aged yacht owners are his latest target - and sea horses his latest weapon. I will bet money that he campaigned against fox hunting but is more reticent on angling, opposed nuclear weapons and the poll tax in the 80s etc. No real evidence to back that up but isn;t that the whole flaw in his save the seahorse campaign.
 
You are right. I oversimplified. They do not have the right, (or rather the right is disputed) to authorise the laying or removal of moorings.
 
Why are you glad the "public" are on your side. They are as ignorant of any of the issues as anybody else. They are fed on a diet of cooing Kate Humble eulogising over seahorses as if they are the most important thing in the world at that point in time.

There was a similar person to yourself (in terms of his concern for sealife) on the BBC news recently explaining how the population of sharks is declining rapidly in our coastal waters. Did he get the Kate Humble treatment? No, some boring time server who asked endless questions about how he controlled his kayak while catching and tagging sharks! Not a word about the serious scientific purpose behind his work!

As I have said before you might spend some of your time on Studland pondering on why the razor clams have just about disappeared - but I guess of little interest to you as they are not something that you can claim to be your "own"

You have had every opportunity on this site to put forward a reasonable scientific case for your concern, to an audience that is by and large pretty intelligent and aware of the issues - many are scientists or have academic training so understand the potential dangers. In every case you have blown it by insulting their intelligence.

If you want to get understanding and co-operation from people such as those on this site you need to deal with them seriously.
 
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