Stripping Antifouling, What Next?

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Our boat is five years old now and having been antifouled twice on delivery(colour change) and once a year thereafter the surface is becoming rather flaky. I attribute the premature arrival of this problem to the first application never having been immersed as the separation seems to be at that level, also the boat stays in fresh water and no longer gets out racing two week nights and every weekend, probably only about 3-400 hours under way per year these days.
On other older boats I took it off about every seven years and on each one applied five coats of epoxy primer (Awlgrip Hullguard on the last one) but I am questioning the need with modern resins. The crane comes back in April and the chances of having 15 degrees for three days (two coats a day plus first antifouling coat) are slim indeed, the cost at over £100 per coat is also a factor; Seajet epoxy primer is a lot cheaper and claimed to work at +10 degrees C, but would you trust that claim?
The hull appears to have a single coat of pale turquoise coloured epoxy over translucent resin.
My options appear to be A - slap the antifouling straight on the hull after a good rub down with industrial scouring pads or wet and dry? B - prime with Primocon then antifoul; C - apply one or perhaps two coats of the cheap epoxy plus antifouling; Or D - do the full anti-osmosis treatment with five coats epoxy.
What would you do? and perhaps why.

Some background regarding my experience so far for you if you are faced with the job.
I do not need to do the keel yet possibly because the epoxy over the lead is much thicker and seems to a different product as the colour is different. The rudder may not need stripping yet either possibly because of better erosion so I will probably leave them for another year. I have been stripping using a Bahco pull scraper, it takes it off in one pull except for above the waterline where it is adhering so well that I may have to use stripper or abrasive. I stop after about 60 to 90 mins. each day because by then it gets hard to maintain concentration and avoid gouging, I expect the stripping of the whole hull to take 15 -20 hours at that rate (33 foot AWB) I wear boiler suit, rubber breathing mask (you need a good fitting one and change the filters frequently) eye protection and cap but am now permanently coloured blue particularly my ears, neck and feet. I try to work from the windward side if possible but you finish up underneath working above your head sooner or later. I find that if you hone the corners of the tungsten blade to reduce the risk of gouging, the blade looses a lot of it bite and needs more strokes, with sharp corners if you work in from the clean edge pulling with your right hand and applying pressure with the left you can take the blade width off clean leaving just the epoxy. I have over half of it done and the first blade edge is still working well so the Bahco Scraper is certainly quick durable and effective compared to trying to use a stripper to soften it up, the harder the top coats the better they seem to come away.
 
On m y last two boats I have had the same issue. In the first case I got the Farrier system man to come along and remove the antifouling after my own brief attempts made it clear that it was more work than I wanted to undertake. The problem was it had been coated with vinyl primer ( Primacon maybe) and that was a cow to remove. Best £400 I have spent - I see no point in scrimping and saving in retirement and forcing myself to do the dirty and unpleasant jobs under the boat.

I then epoxied the boat myself using Blakes solvent free - not a bad job but it would have been better with a helper to lay off. The single handed finish was a bit golf ball like but I suspect if anything it improved the boats performance. Then antifoul.

The current boat I went one step further. The yard scraped the hull clean ( again it had a barrier coat that was difficult to remove) and then epoxied it and copper coated it. The copper coat has been good and saves work every year with no more than a wipe with a sponge mid season and at the end.

Personally in your situation I would have no doubt. I would have the hull blasted clean by some gentle process. It seem daft to me to get back to a clean gel and not to epoxy . All polyester laminates are vulnerable to osmosis - its built into the nature of the polyester molecule. It's not will it get the pox but when will it get the pox with good makes of boat taking a lot longer but getting there all the same.

And if you do epoxy, why on earth go back to a yearly anti foul? Use copper coat whilst its still permitted. I might add that I think you will recover the cost of this work in the eventual resale value of the boat.
 
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Getting the hull dry enough to apply a prophylactic osmosis treatment will be a challenge if she's outside in a British winter. So getting the 15deg you need for the epoxy plus the hull drying looks very unlikely indeed. I think the best bet is a thorough fairing as you suggest followed by antifouling. If you are keen to do the prophylactic treatment you'll need her ashore for at least part of the fair weather season for drying and then maybe you'll also get your 15deg for epoxy.

When we bought our Nauticat she'd been ashore for over a year and the hull was dry. So we scraped back to the original epoxy (applied on first launch) and then applied five coats of Gelshield. We're now six antifoul coats later and the surface is just starting to be less than perfect so I'm adopting a thorough fairing and a/foul strategy this coming spring. I'm going to try and get at least ten years before I scrape it all off and start again - big job. And I think I might take a very close look at soda/slurry blasting to see if that is an easier option.
 
And I think I might take a very close look at soda/slurry blasting to see if that is an easier option.

Having not long completed that job myself - and worked through the 'learning process' - I can assure anyone willing to listen that THAT is the way to go. ;)

And there are people who will come to you, bringing their equipment, although they took a bit of finding.
 
As a retired old codger who only asset is spare time and with this irrational need to have a project to use it up when I am not employed helping in my neighbours boatyard, the prospect of spending the price of a dozen good bottles on slurry blasting never occurred to me, I very much doubt if I could have got it done for as little as £400 out here anyway. About 75% clean now so nearly done.
I have only a couple of seasons left at this game so I would be reluctant to lose the coming summer so I have to decide what best to do before spring launching. Coppercoat is not for me, the boat has a saildrive and a 3 blade folder and I have become almost obsessive about ensuring protection from depletion. It is the main reason the boat is lifted every year. I would definitely prefer the solution of adding some more coats of epoxy if I lived in a warmer climate but temperatures here are generally about 5 degrees lower than in England though some years you can get a few suitable days in April, trouble is you can not count on it. I am tempted to put on the Primocon and antifoul
Can anyone advise on applying an epoxy primer at ten degrees+?
 
I was cogitating on my own regime for this winter and happened to have read GelProtect which quotes 10C curing times and even a 5C application (if you warm the epoxy). No mention of humidity limits. Needs at least 2 weeks at 10C before launching so a good March?
 
If you do yours in February and let me know how it goes so I can do mine in March .............

Naw, I will toss you for who goes first!

I had a look at the Seajet technical sheets to compare with the Hempel ones you linked, they imply that you could apply at above 5 degrees C but then give very extended minimum overcoating times for the various temperatures, for 10C it is minimum about 18 hours even though it is 'set' in two.. so only one coat a day. They also do a high build epoxy which is specifically designed as osmosis protection and needs less coats, there is an error in the coverage figure for this which does not inspire confidence. I suspect that there is not much difference between these actual products so why the disparity regarding suitable conditions? I suspect it may just be caution, the main markets for these products may have more benign climates than Scotland.
I have checked my old log and the last time when I used Awlgrip Hullguard I applied 5 coats in three consecutive days back in March 1996, I bought 10 separate I litre tins (to avoid wastage) in two alternating shades,(a litre per coat per side on a Sigma 38 but this did not include the keel which was not epoxied until 2003) We started each morning as soon as the temp reached 9-10C, rolling on and tipping off with a brush, and put another coat on mid afternoon, the first coat of antifouling followed rapidly on top of the fifth coat. A second coat of AF went on two weeks later the day before launching. The antifouling was scraped off again in Feb/Mar 2003 and the epoxy was still smooth, hard, well bonded and impenetrable. At the time in 96, I was not aware of not following manufacturers recommendations so it looks as if the Awlgrip specified temperatures are now higher for some reason. I did an earlier boat in winter with Hempel and it was fine too, so I think I will get her ready, buy the stuff and pray for a weather window, however I think I will not tempt fate by going for more than three coats.
 
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