Strider 35 ft. 10 tons (kim holman)

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I am thinking of buying a 35 foot Strider, and have got the original (November 1965) yachting monthly review. However I would like to talk to someone who has owed/sailed on one.

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Kim Holman fan club

Well, there's a small and exclusive Kim Holman fan club around these parts, and as one of its members, I'm prepared to bet that the Strider sails like a witch.

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Re: Kim Holman fan club

I sail a 1958 long keel Van de Stadt, But the twister! lovely, lovely, lovely. I looked at a beauty on Wooden ship's books, needed more room though. But one of my favorite designers. Mike.

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I had a 1967 Strider 36 for several years but that was a Holman & Pye design: 1 ton cup racer. It sailed superbly and I had many enjoyable hours sailing past the Sunsail racers out of Portsmouth. She was called Zorina but I believe the owner after me renamed her Banshee.
I took Zorina for several years to the YM Classic Rally while it was at Cowes. As with any old boat you needed to spend a lot of time maintaining her but the sailing experience was unique.



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Banshee

I think the strider 36 (35) one ton cup classic, designed by Holman of Holman & Pye could well be your old boat, and would love to talk to you about her.

She is for sale in Palma, mallorca, my plan would be to take 3 months off work and sail back to the solent (to overtake those sunsail caravans), with my wife and two year old son.





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Re: Banshee

I think the strider 36 (35) one ton cup classic, designed by Holman of Holman & Pye could well be your old boat, and would love to talk to you about her.

She is for sale in Palma, mallorca, my plan would be to take 3 months off work and sail back to the solent (to overtake those sunsail caravans), with my wife and two year old son.





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Just went the other way in 18days on Kim's masterpiece. (Twister)
What will you do with the other 2 months? :)
 

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Does any of you have made experiences on how she sails (speed, behavior upwind, downwind )?
Informations would be very welcomed as I'm thinking of buying one.
Cheers Martin
 

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In the late 1960's my parents had a Northeny 34 which would be very similar, built in GRP to a Kim Holman design. Generally sailed nicely. The only time we had a problem was under a horizontal cut spinnaker in strong winds when she would roll 45 to 45 degrees on a run. Reversing in a marina was unpredictable so we always tried to warp her backwards if it was possible.
 

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Some photos at this link: sailing scenes

Very nice too (biased as I have a Rustler 31) and, as mentioned above, not dissimilar to a Northney 34.

According to this translated article, there is one, Cariacou, moored at the La Rochelle Maritime Museum.

This also mentions that only 9 were built so, if there's one on the market, it's probably your only chance!
 

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If any available Strider is not perfect for you, you could also consider the Hustler 35 which Holman and Pye designed 5 years later for the same 1 ton IOR rule.

You can see the resemblance, but of course by 1971 it has a rudder on a skeg and not attached directly to the back of the keel. There were certainly more than 9 Hustlers produced and they're not uncommon on the brokerage market. Sail beautifully.
 

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Thank you for responding!
@ Concerto, thanks for your observations on downwind-rolling - I imagined that due she is quite narrow (but on the other hand has loads of lead downside!). Yes, the backward theme with longkeelers ...!
@ Carib, that's an interesting information. Will try to get in contact with the actual owner of Cariacou. Thank you!
@ Motor Sailor, yes, the keel-issue is a important one! Maybe I can share my intention/dream to participate in on of the future ggr´s. Therefore I'll need an longkeeler with attached rudder. My hope is to get more recent informations on the number of built hulls, as the in several sources mentioned 9 is - I suppose - from the sixties.
I think she is a strong boat for this purpose, I don't know if she's fast - though that's kind of important for the GGR it is the combination of security and speed that is important to me.
So, if you could help me with any other information, it would be very appreciated.
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Martin
 

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Following the demise of the YBW copyshop, you can research design reports in the yacht designs database held by NMMC Cornwall, and for a small donation their volunteers will (in normal times..) send you a copy of any original magazine report this turns up (or you can try and find an old copy on ebay). They've indexed pretty much all boat reports across the sailing titles.

As to whether she's fast (for her type) - based on knowledge of Holman designs in general, which were mostly built for racing - and very successful at it too - I'd be surprised if she wasn't.
 
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"@ Concerto, thanks for your observations on downwind-rolling - I imagined that due she is quite narrow (but on the other hand has loads of lead downside!). Yes, the backward theme with longkeelers ...! "
The problem was the spinnaker was a lot fuller and rounded than a triradial. The centre of effort was also higher and could not be controlled by the sheet and guy, even moved from the quarter to near maximum beam. Under white sails it was less of a problem and would only move about 10 degrees. We were told the cause was the slack bilges in the aft run of the hull, along with the relative narrow beam (especially compared to modern yachts). The ride was generally very comfortable in all weathers as the long overhangs reduced fore and aft pitching.
 
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