CPD
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Looking for a quick yes/no. Am I reading correctly that the roaming cost for Starlink is £50pm with kit cost <£200 and amp draw 3-4 at 12v (or therebouts). All seems a little too good ?????
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Sticky Fingers
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It looks too good to be true, it probably is.. Musk will rip you off. just don’t do it. They’ve changed the rules multiple times, will likely do so again.
westernman
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50 quid for 50Gbytes
96 quid for unlimited
I have Starlink for my house in France. Unlimited 40 euros per month.
My house does not roam. I use 500GB - 1TB per month.
Roaming is more expensive.
It does what it promises to do.
I just looked up the roaming prices in France.
40 euros for 50GB and 89 euros for unlimited.
You are limited to two months outside your home country and to 12nm from the coast.
There are other plans without this restriction.
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Goldie
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Ts & Cs just changed as of yesterday. Whereas previously, there was no monthly charge when the service was paused, there’s now a charge of £5 p.c.m. BUT, if I read it correctly, you can now access via Starlink at a low data rate for limited use without un-pausing. How slow? No idea!
Yes, Starlink Mini is currently £189 at Curry’s. I can’t confirm current draw as mine is an earlier model, not the Mini, and needs to run via my inverter.
Last weekend, in narrow river anchorage surrounded by wooded high ground, I was getting a download speed of 320Mbps. My home Broadband is 20 Mbps with no prospect of improvement
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Yes, Starlink Mini is currently £189 at Curry’s. I can’t confirm current draw as mine is an earlier model, not the Mini, and needs to run via my inverter.
Last weekend, in narrow river anchorage surrounded by wooded high ground, I was getting a download speed of 320Mbps. My home Broadband is 20 Mbps with no prospect of improvement
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lustyd
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500Kbps so not that slow at all, but not enough for streaming video or uploading content. This is done using rate limiters so it’s a very consistent 500Kbps.
You can still cancel and pay zero but may incur reconnection fees in some areas.
Slipstream 34
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We have the £5 unlimited low data subscription. Download speed tested at 1MB/s which was enough to watch YouTube videos and use Windy with no buffering.
lustyd
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That would be 8Mbps are you certain you downgraded?
Slipstream 34
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1mbps / 1000kbps. We were getting double the speed. Definitely subscribed to the the low data tariff.
S04
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I think the point was that in post #6 you mentioned "1 MB/s", however in post #8 you've confirmed it's actually "1mbps". The b/B difference is significant in this case.
Slipstream 34
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Apologies for the confusion.
Sea Change
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I can only speak for the package we have. The deal you get varies with location.
Purchased a mini in French St Martin in February. Hardware cost was €300. Subscription is €90/month for roam unlimited, which works up to 12 miles offshore. Outside of that we switch to ocean mode and we pay €1.99/GB. It's pro rated although the T&C's suggest that we should be paying a minimum of €50 each time. We were just billed for the data we actually used.
The mini uses around 23w. We just run it off the inverter as were not short of power.
In theory we should have been cut off after two months, but this hasn't happened. I've heard that if they do cut you off, you can turn it off for 72 hours and then it will let you back on.
We also carry an inReach as a backup in case Elon throws his toys out of the pram.
Purchased a mini in French St Martin in February. Hardware cost was €300. Subscription is €90/month for roam unlimited, which works up to 12 miles offshore. Outside of that we switch to ocean mode and we pay €1.99/GB. It's pro rated although the T&C's suggest that we should be paying a minimum of €50 each time. We were just billed for the data we actually used.
The mini uses around 23w. We just run it off the inverter as were not short of power.
In theory we should have been cut off after two months, but this hasn't happened. I've heard that if they do cut you off, you can turn it off for 72 hours and then it will let you back on.
We also carry an inReach as a backup in case Elon throws his toys out of the pram.
Seven Spades
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Out of curiosity does Starlink treat France, Spain and Italy as separate countries for "Roaming" or does it treat the EU as a single country?
Goldie
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My understanding (although I’d love to be proved wrong) is that countries are treated individually and that after 2 months out of your country of Starlink registration (see #11) you may expect to be cut off until re-registered in the new country at whatever pricing policy pertains to that country. In practice, I know of several instances where that hasn’t happened. I hadn’t heard of the ‘72 hour reset’ (#11 again) but I suspect I might have to try it sometime soon 
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KompetentKrew
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Apparently this is the speed you get when you out out of the standard subscription plans and put your account into "stand by". Instead of having to pay a reconnection fee later, you just continue to pay £5 a month and you continue to get a "low speed" connection.
Feels a bit too good to be true. Make no doubt, I would love this service. Apparently the T&Cs say that you may have to reconnect to a full subscription after 12 months.
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Sea Change
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Maybe it's because Starlink was invented by tech bros who cannot comprehend anybody surviving on such a miserly data rate.
Dockhead
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My impression is that T's&C's and tariff plans were designed, and are continuously redesigned, by pimply adolescents at one of Elon's tech camps.
But even so, Starlink is the biggest revolution in connectivity at sea since Marconi.
We've had different disappointments in the tariff plans, but the £5 "pause" mode with unlimited low speed (1mbs is "low speed"?) is unbelievably good.
I've used the Roam 50 and Roam Unlimited and the "Ocean Mode" crossing the North Sea and it all works brilliantly.
I use mine to run my business, and I have perfectly good conference calls and all other high bandwidth tasks needed for business, which means I now don't need to be nervous being on the boat, if I've got work to do.
This like two orders of magnitude more throughput than previous satellite data solutions, at two orders of magnitude less cost. That's revolutionary.
I crossed the Atlantic just a few years ago with KVH. We got 6mbs in theory and about 2mbs in reality, which is literally two orders of magnitude different from the 200mbs I get on Starlink sometimes. We paid $2,406 for 10GB of data, which is $240 (!) per GB. Starlink Roam 50 is $50 for 50GB, so $1 per GB. MORE than 2 orders of magnitude different. The difference in equipment price is almost at that level, too.
But even so, Starlink is the biggest revolution in connectivity at sea since Marconi.
We've had different disappointments in the tariff plans, but the £5 "pause" mode with unlimited low speed (1mbs is "low speed"?) is unbelievably good.
I've used the Roam 50 and Roam Unlimited and the "Ocean Mode" crossing the North Sea and it all works brilliantly.
I use mine to run my business, and I have perfectly good conference calls and all other high bandwidth tasks needed for business, which means I now don't need to be nervous being on the boat, if I've got work to do.
This like two orders of magnitude more throughput than previous satellite data solutions, at two orders of magnitude less cost. That's revolutionary.
I crossed the Atlantic just a few years ago with KVH. We got 6mbs in theory and about 2mbs in reality, which is literally two orders of magnitude different from the 200mbs I get on Starlink sometimes. We paid $2,406 for 10GB of data, which is $240 (!) per GB. Starlink Roam 50 is $50 for 50GB, so $1 per GB. MORE than 2 orders of magnitude different. The difference in equipment price is almost at that level, too.
Dockhead
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Indeed! Who can't even imagine the point of view of someone who used 300 baud Hayes modems and grew up on PACTOR data!!
westernman
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You were lucky. I learnt to program down a 110 baud modem connected to a teletype.Indeed! Who can't even imagine the point of view of someone who used 300 baud Hayes modems and grew up on PACTOR data!!
And that was progress after manually punching holes in punch cards. (A was 10 and 1, B 10 and 2, ') 5 & 8, etc).
KompetentKrew
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It does sound amazing. No doubt I'll get Starlink at some point, but I don't need it right now, so will leave it for the moment.
Sea Change
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It's a mixed blessing. Long offshore passages don't feel quite so special. You're no longer in a self contained bubble.
A friend who skippers a superyacht said there was a huge difference when it came in. Night watches used to be a time for the crew to just chat and get to know each other, but now it's ever more scrolling and staring at phones...
