Stainless steel fixed yacht window frames - source?

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Anyone know of a quality and reliable source who can make a copy of my fixed aluminium windows in Stainless steel. Im refitting a She36 and the originals have taken a hammering over the years and I would like to bring them upto date plus I like things that shine!
 

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Anyone know of a quality and reliable source who can make a copy of my fixed aluminium windows in Stainless steel. Im refitting a She36 and the originals have taken a hammering over the years and I would like to bring them upto date plus I like things that shine!

I've had two sets of windows refurbished, and well, by C&J International Windows.
 
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Hadlow Marine Refurbished My Worn Out Aluminium Frames

Hadlow marine Services refurbished my aluminium framed windows. I removed the windows and they were in a very poor condition. The frames are the split type with small fish plates and even smaller aluminium screws to hold the two half's together. All were corroded and indeed there was some holes in the frame as well.

The glass in these frames is considerably undersized compared to the frame space. A combination of double sided tape, on one side, an O Ring on the other side originally held the window tightly to the frame. This system had since deteriorated and was no longer water tight.

Hadlow Marine fully cleaned the frames, fitted new fish plates and screws. The window pane is now mounted with sealant on both sides. The holes in the aluminium are sealed from the inside with something other than sealant. The mounting face of the frame was lined with a special sealing tape that is about 3 mm thick. When the window frame was clamped to the hull the tape adjusts to the profile and compresses out by about 1 mm depending on the tension in mounting bolts. The mounting of the window was very easy.

I was impressed with the level of refurbishment and the windows have been refitted and appear to be fully water tight.

I would certainly photograph your windows and send a copy to Hadlow Marine. The prices per window are on his web site.

One thing to consider is that the aluminium frame bends around any slight curvature in the hull / coaming. Stainless might be more difficult to do this with. This was important in my windows as they are mounted with screws into the GRP and not through bolted. One thing to consider is that I needed to purchase 3 mm longer mounting screws because of the flange tape thickness. I got these from http://www.a2a4.co.uk/

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Guys thanks for the feedback some excellent suggestions which Ill follow up should the Stainless steel option be a none starter

Good point on the through bolting but I can easily through bolt and as Im refitting will do as it offer a little more security and less chance of recrazing the grp.

I thought about the curvature issue and to be honest its the main thing thats holding me back a little as I want to add another window aft of the existing two and there is a definite curve to the coach roof superstructure here. I guess I still need to find someone who can quote me in SS so I can balance the issues and cost.
 

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Don't worry too much about the curvature that you need to form to - the trick is to offer the stainless frame to the cabin side and see what the gaps are that you need to close and then bend it to suit. Use something like an oil drum as a former so you get smooth bends.

I replaced timber surrounds using this method a couple of years back - no leaks since!
 

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Some great advice guys many thanks and Ill link on these if I cant solve this with SS windows - I guess the pursuit of the holy grail of SS windows continues to be my quest.
 

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Stainless steel windows are very best windows and these windows are very beautiful and also strong in looking and i think you should be take advice from any experience holder person who have a great knowledge about this field he will be the best for you.
 

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Hello Croz,
I realise it is an old post but I also have a SHE36 and am wanting to refurbish the windows.
What did you do with yours in the end?
I note that Eagle Boat Windows and Hadlow Marine are still around, however it appears C&J is no more.

If anyone else has had their windows refurbished/ replaced I'd be interested to know how it went.
 

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Almost any fabricator who used stainless steel could construct window frames for you.

I have made window frames from stainless as well as galvanized mild steel, but I am too far away from the UK to help.

If you can indicate your location someone could recommend some one local to you
 

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My old boat had h section ally frames, and I never could get them to seal. Eventually, I cut them down so the h was an l, which I used as an external trim. The new perspex was sized the same as the outer edge of the frame and through bolted to the cabin sides using the original holes and butyl tape. The inside trim was made of 3mm ply. No more leaks!

The outside was a bit thicker than the original, but you wouldn't notice unless close up and looking for it. The inside looked like this

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Thank you all for the answers and info.
I think I'll be better able to decide on which route to take, new SS or refurbish once I have removed the existing.
The boat, SHE36 Oyibo, and I are based in Plymouth.
 

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Any decent stainless fabricator should be able to weld up and polish suitable frames. Take the old ones in or make a pattern or do an accurate drawing. There are several stainless fabricators in Plymouth. I’ve used a couple but it’s a while ago so I don’t want to mention names. Put up a thread asking for recommendations and you’ll get some current experience of local business.
 
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